$1 Don, T4o on SB

Hero folds, 0 showndown value.

Originally posted by reggie123
Hero folds, 0 showndown value.

There's no such thing as showdown value when there's not even a flop yet...

Originally posted by reggie123
Hero folds, 0 showndown value.

Hero agree, SngWiz disagree.

I don't know why...

I don't know why...

There's 0,6bb+limp+sb-2,1bb on pot, 8,6 to take down 2,1 u do the math but i dont like this shove when there's ealry pos. limper.

There's no such thing as showdown value when there's not even a flop yet...

Well bb is kind a short, it means that there will be one and you get 43% against any2 and if limper calls lets say 16% range then you only have 20% change to win. You need littlebit more then that.

Yea, but that's called equity, not showdown value. You can have a lot of equity but no showdown value.

Down to 8BB i usually only push or fold.

However in this case you could see the flop when calling since BB is already all in.

But if you call, on what flop should you push? There are very few flops that I would dare to push when first to act postflop after a limper preflop. Especially with T4o.

And Pushing T4o after a limper postflop, not possible...

So folding is the only option. (However SnGWiz disagree?)

Hi all,

Sometimes SNGWizard has problems with very small stacks. Here I think both completing (limping and seeing a flop) and folding are both fine. Folding's just the safer option.