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NL20 SH KK - he owned me already preflop?

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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($13.58)
Hero ($30.64)
UTG ($20)
UTG+1 ($21.89)
CO ($20.30)
BTN ($23.99)

Dealt to Hero K♣ K♠

UTG raises to $0.60, UTG+1 raises to $2.20, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.40, fold, UTG+1 raises to $21.89 (AI), Hero calls $16.49

UTG: 23/18/2.6, PFR UTG 14, f3bet 67 (6), 332 hands

UTG+1:

He 3bets vs UTG. Looks strong, especially when he has 4% 3bet. But he should still have QQ+ at least. So vs this I am 50/50. If we include AK, then its already ok for me, even if he 3bet/folds AK. BUt maybe vs UTG he is not 3beting AK.


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If he has QQ+ you break even.
Any "maybe" adds to your equity.

I don't think its worth considering a preflop fold with KK.

Just call and move on..


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Hi Speed,

In a 6 max game I wouldn't be able to fold KK preflop even in UTG vs UTG+1.

As you said QQ is most likely part of his range and possibly AKs. Add on top of that a few bluffs so 4-betting is fine and going with the hand is fine.


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If you consider folding to a shove w/ KK why do you 4bet then? tunring ur hand into a bluff pretty mch.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009
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after 4bet I did not think about folding, but I was considering cold calling 3bet or directly folding.


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