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$50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

MP: $96.33 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 16, 3B: 18, AF: 0.8, Hands: 80
CO: $53.21 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 97
BTN: $130.05 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 23, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 22
Hero (SB): $50.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 4.6, Hands: 167476
BB: $32.50 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 3.0, Hands: 592
UTG: $46.34 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 17, AF: 2.3, Hands: 90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with J :club: J :spade:
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.00) J :diamond: 4 :club: 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.14, Hero raises to $6.50, BTN calls $4.36

Turn: ($16.00) 2 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $9.50, BTN raises to $20, Hero raises to $42.25, BTN calls $22.25

River: ($100.50) T :diamond: (2 players)

preflop: Not much metagame, so I just cold call. On a very loose aggro image I'd 3/5bet.

Flop: We have 100 bb stacks. So, x/r works good enough.
Sometimes I x/r bluff here and keep my size this small - 3x smthg.

If we were 150 bb deep I'd better like bet/3bet line to get the stacks in by the river.

Turn: His range here could be slowplayed sets, slowplayed overpairs, 65s, 65o, Ad5d


Board: J♦4♣3♣ 2♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    35.81%  35.81%   0.00% { QQ+, 44-33, 65s, Ac5c, 65o }
MP3    64.19%  64.19%   0.00% { JsJc }

Say 50/50 that QQ+ slowplay (that will be 3 combps of each):

Board: J♦4♣3♣ 2♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    43.75%  43.75%   0.00% { 44-33, AdAh, AdAs, AdAc, KdKh, KdKs, KdKc, QdQh, QdQs, QdQc, 65s, Ac5c, 65o }
MP3    56.25%  56.25%   0.00% { JsJc }

Seems to be fine.
Thanks!

Mental side of poker: This is for me mostly. But you are welcome to give your opinion.
Problem
After seeing him having there 65o I tilted a bit, but decided to mark a hand
and review it later and post it here.

Why does it make logical sense that you would react, think, or feel that way?
It's logical because I can see that I'm getting outplayed in a way.
He made a perfect play IMO and I can't do much there.
Why is that logic flawed?
a. Because I can't control cards.
b. I can't control my OP's playing style.
c. Making the best decision is all I can do. The rest is variance.
What is the correct way to handle the situation?
Correct way is to keep playing my strategy. Mark the hand.
Post it on forum later and learn the spot. Also, make a note if it's
something I wouldn't expect. But I expected this to be one of the hands.
Why is that correction correct?
Because it makes sense to do things I can control and not worry about single outcome. I can control - reviews, my strategy, hand posting,
hand marking, deep breathing, etc.
I can't control outcome or the way OP plays.

Spoiler

Tendler, Jared; Carter, Barry (2011-10-02). The Mental Game of Poker: Proven Strategies For Improving Tilt Control, Confidence, Motivation, Coping with Variance, and More (p. 62). Jared Tendler, LLC. Kindle Edition.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008
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Hi.

Preflop: 3b should be your default play given positions.
Flop: i dont like checkraising this dry flop with top set. I prefer checkcall checkraise. Its way less likely that he has top pair when we have 2 Js ourselves.

Turn: we cant fold for sure with top set. We dominate overpairs and lower sets whilr losing to straights.

Thanks.

Ps: i dont like leading this flop ever. It just doesnt make sense to have a leading range here, and top set is the worse hand to do it with. When our opponents range is likely to be weaker we should induce, not bet out.


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Originally posted by mbml
Preflop: 3b should be your default play given positions.

Do you think this?
a) 3bet/5bet for value QQ+, AKs, AKo. Also 3bet for value, but fold to 4bet
TT-JJ, AQ-AJ, KQ?

b) 3bet/5bet for value (maybe even TT +) JJ+, AKs, AKo. Also 3bet for value, but fold to 4bet -> AQ-AJ, KQ?

EDIT:
I was 3/5betting it, but then stopped doing it. Both - BB vs BU, SB vs BU.
Not sure if it works in a longterm, but I might be looking too much into
small sample. (Or using wrong OP's for that.)


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mbml
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I think jj should be a default 5bet.

Tt and AQ are dependent on the opponent's 4bet tendencies. If villain doesnt 4bet much then folding those makes more sense.

Thanks.


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Originally posted by mbml
Flop: i dont like checkraising this dry flop with top set. I prefer checkcall checkraise. Its way less likely that he has top pair when we have 2 Js ourselves.

Do you think, when we x/c and then x/r we can actually trick players
to pay off with more marginal hands than a simple x/r?

My overall image is LAG preflop, maniac post-flop.
That is why I'm just using brutal force and not
tricky play. Usually most people don't believe me.
I find my x/r bluffs called pretty light on the flop.
Although a big part of calls comes from TP stuff.
And here you are right.

My x/r range on flop is situation dependent.

With FD's, SD's and backdoors I find it more proffitable to donkbet than x/r anyway, so I don't have to balance here at all.


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