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75s defend vs SB min-raise.

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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $9,000(BB) Replayer
SB ($217,239)
Hero ($654,541)
UTG ($354,203)
UTG+1 ($278,545)
UTG+2 ($760,387)
MP1 ($306,507)
CO ($144,219)
BTN ($215,721)

Dealt to Hero 7♥ 5♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $18,000, Hero calls $9,000

FLOP ($45,000) 4♣ 2♥ 8♥

SB bets $16,335, Hero calls $16,335

TURN ($77,670) 4♣ 2♥ 8♥ 9♦

SB bets $32,885, Hero raises to $207,000, SB folds

The same guy from the KTs hand but a bit later.

Shoving turn is ok, or call>shove?


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Hi,

I would take following line:
- raise flop 38k and if he comes over the dop smt like 70k then shove and expect to have fold equity.
Calling flop and shoving any turn is ofcourse fine, but you give him chance hit his hand/go pot control and you have the most equity on the flop

best regards,


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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

Hello and thanks for you thoughts!

I thought about raising flop, but what if he directly shoves on us? I think we should fold then, and I didnt want to do that.

Also I think with call flop line we are more balanced and we keep or range wider for value while with the flop raise we aint repping that much I guess. Mostly FDs.

I guess both lines have their adventages and disadventages.

What do You think about the turn shove. Shove or call again?


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turn shove is better, since you don´t have no showdown value and a lot of fold equity.
Even if he should directly shove against my 38k 3bet I would prefer calling, since he can sometimes have there just Ax hands (and my 7 and 5 are also live outs)

if you don´t raise flop too often (especially with one pair hands), then you can always take call flop/evaluate turn line.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Hi,

I would take following line:
- raise flop 38k and if he comes over the dop smt like 70k then shove and expect to have fold equity.
Calling flop and shoving any turn is ofcourse fine, but you give him chance hit his hand/go pot control and you have the most equity on the flop

best regards,

this
but depending on villain(if villain likes to clik btns and play 3/4/5 bet game i like kaitz line) i vs random prefer raising kinda bigger to like 60-65k and the u have bigger fold eq on flop and right odds to call of if he shove + u have like pot sized bet left on turn if he just flat so u can just put him AI on turn


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Nice hand well played. 23bb deep I prefer your line of trying to put the last bet in. This hand really sucks if our opponent is able to put the last bet in with his Q high or whatever airball and "own" us.


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