[Closed] Shorthanded Starting hand chart - try it!

i think 16/13 is a bit too tight for NL50 SH, but your chart is a good starting point. i just don't like to make flat calls with so large of a range. usually, only pocket pairs and when i have more than one opponent and big stacks, some suited facecards, suited connectors and maybe suited aces. being the agressor pays a lot better in SH games. i think you should raise with any pocket pair from any position, AJo+ and KQo+ from any position and adapt your range for 3bets and open raises in CO, BTN and SB to the opponents' styles.

btw, i'm playing 20/18/4 in my first 2.5k hands in NL50 SH, with a profit of 35BB/100. i know the profit won't stay this big for long, but the stats tend to be these. at NL25, played 17/14/3. in my opinion, you have to gradually loosen up while climbing up the limits, coz upper limits tables tend to be tighter and you can abuse a lot more.

This is what I use for NL100+ (more or less):

UTG: 22+, AJo+, ATs+, 56s+
MP: 22+, ATo+, A9s+, KJo+, 56s+
CO: 22+, A7o+, A2s+, KTo+, 86s+, 56s+
BU: 22+, A2o+, K9o+, 57o+, 56s+

SB: too opponent specific to answer exactly, but roughly CO range
BB: see SB

3bet: very opponent and table dynamics-specific. For resteals, (SB or BB vs BU) roughly MP open raise range.

4bet/shove: QQ+, AK, sometimes wider vs some opponents or in resteal situations.

56s+ UTG?

loooooosy!

depends on the table of course, if it's too loose, then stick to T9s+, or JTs+

would you also recommend these ranges for lower limits?

Originally posted by Floating
would you also recommend these ranges for lower limits?

do you spew postflop? do you cbet 100% of the time without knowing when to check behind? do you bluff enough? do you valuebet enough?

if you answered yes to more than 1 (and this is probably yes ;)), i think it is best to gradually ease into a looser preflop game.

in terms of profitability, i would be more than happy to use swiss's chart for NL50 if i played that though. Although I don't like A7o+ from CO, I don't like 57o+ (i'm closer to 97o+) from BU, and I would definitely raise 23s+ from the BU, as well. I think in general my position and VP$IP/PFR's are pretty close though.

i'd not recommend. you must have some fold equity to raise with suited connectors, much more if you are oop. you don't have it at lower limits at all.

what are your stats, swiss? 25/22?

between 18/14 and 22/18 when I raise those hands, I guess.. but I don't use a chart, it depends on the table really... so I'm not sure what stats you would have using that.

thanks a lot for this post guys!

Really makes me realize how much I can continue to loosen up as I get more comfortable preflop.

UTG: 77+, AJs+, KQs (7.54%)

With that range 7.54% is incorrect, shouldnt it be 4.83%? My guess is that u forgot AQo+ and KQo+ alt. AJo+ if 7.54% is correct.

Originally posted by Menel

UTG: 77+, AJs+, KQs (7.54%)

With that range 7.54% is incorrect, shouldnt it be 4.83%? My guess is that u forgot AQo+ and KQo+ alt. AJo+ if 7.54% is correct.

yes it seems I forgot AQo and KQo

do you people really use a SHC ?
I open/coldcall a hand when I think its profitable to be opened/cced and that's it. It depends on who is yet to act, who is in the pot already, how did i play in the last orbits, what did i showdown in previous hands and what did other people showdown and probably other factors I can't think of right now.

This is why you can see me playing anything between 37/30 and 13/10, I don't have fixed stats.

it's a tool to begin with, of course it isn't meant to be followed strictly, especially not at 6-max NL100+

I don't follow it anymore

When you understand why to play which hands under which circumstances against which opponent in which situation, then you can start playing without a chart. But this understanding is definitely necessary.

I need a chart, strat and videos for SH BSS NL2/NL4 please link. thnx in advance.

I'm going to give the first shc posted a try. But I'm not sure by what you mean with the flat-calling part at the bottom. Can someone explain this?

I believe flatcall means calling a raise. That is to say, when someone "open"raises and you "flat" call.

That's what I thought it meant. But it seems like a lot of calling raises. I don't like that idea. I think I'll modify things a bit to suit my style.