[Closed] Anyone tried the double or nthing SNG format?

Hey guys,

I played roughly 100 of these in the last few days. My roi was only about 7% on the $33's and $55's. These only last 30 minutes so our hourly rate can be pretty high, but they are harder to multi-table imo. I was playing 9 at a time, and playing push/fold on 9 turbo tables isn't exactly advised for newer players.

After a 2 hour session I was getting really bored, and I can usually play a 6-8 hour session with no problems.

My conclusion: These are to hard to multi-table, and are really boring. However there is money to be made on these, but certainly not for grinding players. Its like SSS, one mistake just obliterates your winrate. I think there is more money to be made on normal SnG's, therefore I wont be playing anymore of these.

This is only my opinion though, and shouldn't be taken as gospel.

GL guys,
Stiev

I play alot of this Sng (5.5$ on mansion) and in last 2 weeks i made about 100$, it is hard because your play must be without errors. The shitty part is that for exemple if you play 2 tables and you loose one of them you are in minus (to tables cost you 11$ and if you win only one you have 10$, so minus 1$).
Are there others sites with this sng?

Also I forgot to mention.

On titan they are 10% rake, and are turbo's. I think thats a joke tbh. They only take 30 minutes, and on the higher limits they should only be 5% imo.

ugly mansion here you dont get any rake, but you have normal sng (8 minutes blinds level)and of course turbos, i only play normals.

for: Sonydahaka hi, i recommended to play 5,5$ normal sng on mansion... those are easiest sng i ever play... i played them more than 1k with roi about 24% now ...... but 11$ still eating my brain

Cannell555, how could you have ROI just 7%. I imagine that those SNGs are real donk fests.

Also, in what way are they harder than normal SNGs (or 9-10 man turbos).

Hi timukasr,

If you are playing a set of 9 tables, then chances are you will be playing push/fold on every table at once (and they are turbos). This makes them mentally draining after awhile.

If we go on the fact that we loose about 30% of SnG's due to a bad beat, then we need to win pretty much the other 70% to have a good roi.

In a normal SnG, if we suffer a badbeat in 30% of the games, we still have the chance to win the others, which pays 5 times our buyin. Therefore its alot easier to reach a higher roi%.

Poker has to many badbeats and downswings, to make these double or nothing SnG's more profitable than normal SnG's.

Best regards,
Stiev

Originally posted by cannell555

Originally posted by RHart1985UKEngland

Originally posted by SharkySmurf
Played these on coral, i don't think they are much good if you want to learn proper poker.

but a sng isnt real poker full stop period man.

best strategy for these d/n sngs in my opinion is to play the exact same way you play a turbo sng.

come on, you can do better than that. Give me 50 words explaining your smiley.

Drop and give me 50 bitch!

Originally posted by miskokvo
best strategy for these d/n sngs in my opinion is to play the exact same way you play a turbo sng.

pls teach me how u play turbo sng ... my lord

I do not understand your post...im english and when i have my own nations language spoken back to me i expect it to make fucking sense.

Where are you coimng from, what was the motive for your addition?

Are you an idiot or am i to assume you was just brought up by a couple of scallies.

Hi RHart1985UKEngland,

Insulting peoples English isn't very nice. This forum would be as dead as a dodo without foreign members. Please dont vent anger towards other forum users.

My smiley was aimed at the "but a sng isn't real poker full stop period man" sentence. In SnG's we have to adjust to every possible situation. Which imo is the most "real" poker there is.

Best regards,
Stiev

RHart1985UKEngland: im glad not to be from england... can i ask you how many foreign languages do u speak? person with IQ below 80 can easily learn native language as a child... so dont be a hero and go eat some boiled vegetables in cake or something like that

Originally posted by cannell555
Hi RHart1985UKEngland,

Insulting peoples English isn't very nice. This forum would be as dead as a dodo without foreign members. Please dont vent anger towards other forum users.

My smiley was aimed at the "but a sng isn't real poker full stop period man" sentence. In SnG's we have to adjust to every possible situation. Which imo is the most "real" poker there is.

Best regards,
Stiev

Your smiley was a bit random...you can explain things soooooo much better in words. Your entitled to your opinion. As am i. So i find it very frustrating when some clown comes into the topic and attempts to belittle me.

To beat sit n gos consitantly to make a proffit you need to have an edge to gain the edge you need a strategy. That doesn't mean you can't adjust to certain situations. If you didn't you'd be an idiot.

As for thinking that an online sng is the most "real" form of poker available. I completely disagree with you.

Don't get me wrong, normal sngs are a great way to learn how to play poker and improve your game....afterall, your buying in for a set amount. you limit your loss blah blah blah but an online sng is not real poker.

Just to test you - see if you can answer me this. Miskokvo can play too if she wishes.

You are playing a turbo sng. its level 2. You are dealt QQ in mid position and you raise a little more aggressive than usual and you stick out 5 BB. Theres no action behind you but the small blind moves all in. What do you do? To add more to that question....you have almost what you started out with 1425 etc. The small blind has 1200. You raised to 150 so your left behind with 1275.
The blind levels are only 5 minites.

You've seen the small blind make a few pre flop raises and muck post flop.

Well I would never raise 4bb's preflop, never mind 5bb's. So I would never be in such a situation. As for you testing me, well i'll refer to my smiley again ♦

Best regards,
Stiev

5xBB = opponent has clearly information thath u holding premium hand AA,KK,QQ,JJ AKs AKs/off...

depend of buy in of sng = lover stakes u should call coz players are more loose ...
but in high stakes if u like gambling u should call but imagine this:

your opponent holding: AA,KK-u are dominated 80:20
AKs,AKoff - 50:50 (coin flip)
AXs,off - 35:65

random 2 cards - 30:70
JJ,TT,99- - 20:80 (best)

IF player have VPIP 0% or etc(beggining 2lvl-10 hands) i will definetly thinking of folding coz they just waiting to double up with first 2 class

if is player loose 35+% VPIP i will call

Originally posted by cannell555
Well I would never raise 4bb's preflop, never mind 5bb's. So I would never be in such a situation. As for you testing me, well i'll refer to my smiley again ♦

Best regards,
Stiev

Dear me.

So your range goes like this...
2 bb with a min bet on the flop - hahahaha your not 1 of them are you?
3 bb - ak suited, ak off, aces, kings, queens.
4 bb - jacks, tens, aq suited, aq off, aj suited.
5 bb - aj suited, king queen suited, king queen off, nines.
limp - 8s n smaller pairs, suited connecters 67 n above. blah blah blah

Seriously.

I said, you raise a little more aggressive than USUAL. you have to mix your play up here and there for one. Plus this is the early stages of a turbo sng. Your going to have to play hands much more aggressive than you would in REAL poker. Oh wait, this is as real as it gets for you.

haha im gonna stop there anyways... otherwise if we go any further, i'll end up mocking you.

Hi RHart1985UKEngland

Nope theres no real need to deviate from raising 3bb's (2.5 if blinds are big) preflop. Why would you want to show more aggression than normal? It makes no sense.

"this is about as real as it gets for you", WHAT?

You will end up mocking me? Tell me something about my game that you can mock, until 2 days ago i'd never even seen you, how can you mock me?

To be as confident as you are i'm guessing your a high roller? No? I didn't think so.

Please, no more flaming, otherwise i'll be forced to close a good informative thread.

GL
Stiev

I am playing some in the last days along with the regular ones because there were quite a few tables. Didn't have any particular observations( from 5 I made 3 to the money ♦) but I think I prefer the normal ones

I am playing them a lot.

about 10 days ago, mansion started the Turbos DON ( 2 min per blinds levels ) which are total luck. And all fishs / gamblers are playing them now.

So the regular DON are getting harder because less fishs on them
Im on the 54$ now, and I have some problems making money.

Anyway i really need to learn how to push/fold on them, because the ICM is different, and Im not sure of my moves sometimes.

I would really enjoy a video with a real Proffesional on 54/108 regulars DON.

I found higher limit sng alot more profitable. The swings in these are huge at $30+ with competent players comes down to a total crapshoot with very stupid big stacks/players not colluding to eliminate players.
All in all my experience in these are 1 player donks off his chips early everyone sits around min betting everything (so boring) untill everyone is at about 3 blinds then lets roll the dice to see who places itm.

The only real difference when making an ICM decision, is that we need to survive. We dont need to gather chips to win the SnG. As a mid stack you are faced by a whole different game plan. Having to lay down good cards against bigger stacks.

I dont think a "Professional" would be interested in playing these, so I dont think you will find any videos about them.