Bluffing with A high flush draws

hes gonna call you with any pair and perhaps better A highs. I don't like the idea of you doing this vs a guy you have played 24 hands with and he has 33vpip/0 pfr and 0 3bet.

meaning either he is totally carddead like ever seen before or hes a very passive guy who likes to call. meaning this wont have as much Fold equity as vs more thinking players. Im sure the situation is fine to barrel all streets with, only problem i see is that you picked the wrong opponent to do it against.

I am confused. I rather see worse hands calling than better hands folding. Especially on the river. What better hands do you think he/they can fold?

Originally posted by Funkmaster
I am confused. I rather see worse hands calling than better hands folding. Especially on the river. What better hands do you think he/they can fold?

DISCLAIMER: I have no idea at all what I am saying, so please don't believe me and attack any thing you think is wrong.

Probably boomer and/or any other advanced player will tell me this is nonsense. But I see no major problem with the semi-bluff with Ahi FD on flop and turn. The main problem is how you played the river. First of all, it is not only a blank, but also leaves only pocket pairs and other 6 cards around that can beat you. So I think that the best line is raise flop (you have value for a raise here) bet turn x/c river. I would like however an EV analysis (simplifying this a bit, consider that we know that BB will fold). I probably try to do it one of these days, but it would be lovely if anyone anticipated me haha.

sidetrack: There is an advantage with semibluffing Ahi draws, and it is that we don't need to take all of our missed draws to a 3rd barrel, but we can x/c OOP or x behind IP a lot of 2nd barrels. I think that the best thing we can do, beyond balance, is un-polarize our range as much as possible.

Thank you for your input!

@Funkmaster. The only thing I'm sure about is that if I x/r the flop, I pretty much have to bet a blank river. As Jleitmotiv points out, the flop x/r is for thin value, but the hand turns into a possible bluffing hand on the turn and river, so there is some folding equity to go along with the pure value on the flop.

When it comes to bluffs, the prescription "bluff with the worst x%" of your range is balanced thinking. Perhaps this thinking can be approved upon? I saw Boomer's coaching with a number or hands played "Polaris vs Human" and got the impression that Polaris pretty much didn't care about what he held when he bluffed. It seemed it is mostly the board that matters.

@Avataren, yeah, I choose the wrong opponent. Such a guy isn't going to fold. (He'd take this hand as evidence that fish play is correct.)

Edit: When I wrote this post, I got the feeling that I'm contradicting myself. Am I?

Edit once again: It's embarasing, but I din't notice until now that that board is double paired o t r Suppose a trey fell instead of the deuce. In this case, I'm at any rate not folding on the river - even if I'm not confident with me having the best hand. This is the definition of a spot where you should b/f. This said, I'm back to the original Q. Check-raise on the flop or not? I now think the check-call line is the best due to the nature of my opponents.

Hi!

I dont like flop c/r with this hand and I would c/c this one pretty much always. First BBs range seems pretty strong and I dont ever see him folding a better Ax unless a bad card comes (but then you hit that card) and that equity edge(if it even is on board like this) is certainly rly rly small. Besides I do see many worse hands in this spot that I would bluff with, no real reason to do it with this one.

As played turn is already hard to play(all due to flop spazz) and prolly betting again is best play,just for value and protection vs worse hands.

If BB were the one calling you down then this would be really hard in this case I find it to be a very easy c/c. MP looks as not a rly great player(his overlimp preflop vs 1) and there are quite a few busted draws out there...KQ,QJ,FD,... getting 1:10 looks pretty easy,also weaker players will likely not bet too thin here which makes their betting range even more polorised.
Betting this river doesnt make sense to me... you are not making a better hand to fold and I would count too much on KQ,KJ calls...way less likely than bluffs when you check