[Closed] KK vs JJ

Hi zubrils2,

I moved your thread to the hand evaluation forum. You will get more advice and professional help here.

GoodLuck,
Stiev

In my opinion you played it in good way. Quite many would fold JJ when faced with 4x 4bet. Flop was good for you, but opponent was very lucky to catch his 2 out at turn.

You are already pot committed at turn, ~6$pot and you have only ~2$ left. Doesn't really matter what you do here, if opponent is front of you, he will bet and you can't fold... Still there is quite many hands behind you which will call your turn bet, TT, QQ, AJ, maybe flush draw + A.

Simple and pure bad beat

** Hand History for Game 7423039644 **
$ 5 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, October 03, 05:50:37 ET 2008
Table Table 125826 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: rifleman123 ( $ 4.13 USD )
Seat 7: M4yke88 ( $ 5.37 USD )
Seat 8: parrotbay1 ( $ 14.57 USD )
Seat 10: olomus ( $ 6.45 USD )
Seat 9: zubrils3 ( $ 6.63 USD )
Seat 6: DoubleAce422 ( $ 3.82 USD )
Seat 5: Veikka6 ( $ 5.33 USD )
Seat 3: aXXioto ( $ 5.11 USD )
Seat 2: lvgaraislv ( $ 5.60 USD )
Seat 4: walerian ( $ 2.98 USD )
walerian posts small blind [$ 0.02 USD].
Veikka6 posts big blind [$ 0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zubrils3 [ Qd Qc ]
>You have options at Table 126048 table.
DoubleAce422 calls [$ 0.04 USD]
M4yke88 folds
parrotbay1 folds
zubrils3 raises [$ 0.20 USD]
olomus folds
rifleman123 folds
>You have options at Table 126048 table.
lvgaraislv folds
aXXioto folds
walerian folds
>You have options at Table 126048 table.
>You have options at Table 129268 table.
Veikka6 folds
DoubleAce422 calls [$ 0.16 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 9d, 2c ]
>You have options at Table 126296 table.
DoubleAce422 bets [$ 0.08 USD]
zubrils3 raises [$ 0.37 USD]
DoubleAce422 is all-In [$ 3.54 USD]
zubrils3 folds
DoubleAce422 does not show cards.
DoubleAce422 wins $ 4.39 USD

And we disagree again He thinks that I should've either just called flop raise or call push. I think in situations like this he has me beat and wants my call. AA or KK I call in situation like that.

1) KK nice, hand, nothing to do here if oppoennt would call his 2 outer on the turn.
2) Board is drawy. I believe that opponent may shove here with any straight/flushdraw, sometimes any pair, so I´d call here.

1) We can count it cooler.
2) Any stats? Without it is really hard to figure something out.

And please convert your hands. It is really hard to read these historys without converting.