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vladnz
vladnz
Joined: 17.01.2007
Posts: 1,325
02.11.2008, 09:21

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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+2: $6.23 (62.3 bb)
MP1: $7.63 (76.3 bb)
MP2: $12.25 (122.5 bb)
MP3: $13.19 (131.9 bb)
CO: $1.85 (18.5 bb)
BTN: $9.75 (97.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $2.14 (21.4 bb)
BB: $2.11 (21.1 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A♣ Q♦
UTG+2 calls $0.10, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.10) T♦ 5♠ T♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, UTG+2 calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.30) 2♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.04 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $0.54

River: ($4.38) 4♥ (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results (listed below in white, highlight to see): $4.38 pot ($0.21 rake)
UTG+2 showed Kh 9d (a pair of Tens) and lost (-$2.14 net)
Hero showed Ac Qd (a pair of Tens) and won $4.17 ($2.03 net)


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Nunki
Nunki
Joined: 25.10.2006
Posts: 953
02.11.2008, 10:07

If you were going to CRAI on the turn with no FE then you should have just shoved at some earlier point in the hand. Some FE is better than no FE.


_Anonymous_
_Anonymous_
02.11.2008, 10:56

Shove pf is very weak.
Bet more on the flop (even shove).
As played:
Fold the turn bet.

Best regards,
kukkiwon_BG


_Anonymous_
_Anonymous_
02.11.2008, 20:30

I would say yes, push flop <-- before looking at results.
After looking at the results I would say, play however you want but be sure to follow this chum around and extract as many tokens as you can before they learn how to fold thier garbage.


IngolPoker
IngolPoker
Joined: 05.09.2006
Posts: 9,956
04.11.2008, 21:45

why do you all want to shove??????? only push if the normal bet commits more than half of your stack

his stack isnt that small

flop is fine, turn cf, you didnt hit anything


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_Anonymous_
_Anonymous_
04.11.2008, 22:11

Originally posted by IngolPoker
why do you all want to shove??????? only push if the normal bet commits more than half of your stack

his stack isnt that small

flop is fine, turn cf, you didnt hit anything

I would shove flop because my standard c-bet on a FD board is full-pot. On a board like this we often both have nothing, I win, why go to SD? Even if he has a small pair I still have 7 outs for 2.5 hand odds and push flop = 2.67 pot odds. Plus, I like my FE on NL10, there are simply too many calling stations who will call a weak-flop bet, looking to improve thier 2 card draws (runner-runner) and end up sucking out a small pair. Save it for BSS. I'm all-in ♦


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