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lila28
Joined: 31.05.2013

I was 3btting lately some more active so i decided to flat, utg+1 was loose enough to play this hand (28/18 or similar). Co is tight agr over small sample.
On flop was no reason to raise so flatted with intention most likely fold to turn bet from utg+1.
On turn OR check, but again there is no dangerous river cards and we are most likely above both player ranges with huge % equity or crushed and drawing dead already.
When CO bet turn i not count in his range ak often because he prob 3bet it pf, aq sometimes but not always. OFC less likely he have AJ because we have it and he can have AT and some cases slowplayed nuts or non a hand.
When he bet that sizing it seem we can't flat because it leave that low SPR on river, raising seem not good because what we put him on. So we should fold or i am putting him on bad range? Myb different play on flop/turn is better?

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t50 - 8 players - View hand 2442870
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Hero (MP2): t21236 M = 21.24
CO: t34112 M = 34.11
BTN: t16045 M = 16.05
SB: t12250 M = 12.25
BB: t19674 M = 19.67
UTG: t18334 M = 18.33
UTG+1: t17077 M = 17.08
MP1: t70987 M = 70.99

Pre Flop: (t1000) Hero is MP2 with A :diamond: J :club:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t1200, 1 fold, Hero calls t1200, CO calls t1200, 3 folds

Flop: (t4600) A :heart: 5 :club: 2 :spade: (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t3600, Hero calls t3600, CO calls t3600

Turn: (t15400) 9 :club: (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO bets t5600, UTG+1 folds, hero ?


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Havlisak
Joined: 18.05.2009

I would 3b/f or fold this pre vs 3x open. I do not think we can flat profitably in these positions. It gonna lead to a lot of multiway pots what is not exactly what u want with AJo


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lila28
Joined: 31.05.2013

Originally posted by Havlisak
I would 3b/f or fold this pre vs 3x open. I do not think we can flat profitably in these positions. It gonna lead to a lot of multiway pots what is not exactly what u want with AJo

Ok, thanks.


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letmewinplz8
Joined: 15.05.2010

yea i fold pre too - don't even really consider any other option close imo - way better hands to 3bet bluff with


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Hi,

I would mostly fold pre-flop. If UTG is really loose then I would prefer 3-betting.
I guess flatting is also fine, but since you miss too often and are often dominated by AQ/AK then fold is likely better option.
As played: I think you need to call turn. AK is going to 3-bet close to 100%, he is likely flatting AQ/AJ/ATs, maybe some other Axs hands and 55/22, sometimes AA
I think he would bet most Ax hands, since no point to give free river cards to pp-s and he would often check back worse Ax hands.
So you can call turn, fold river ui.
If you hit your J then you can bet out yourself to get called AQ and maybe some worse Ax hands.

best regards,


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
I would 3b/f or fold this pre vs 3x open. I do not think we can flat profitably in these positions. It gonna lead to a lot of multiway pots what is not exactly what u want with AJo

I would definitely 3bet, even if I'd been 3betting a ton. But folding is OK

Originally posted by letmewinplz8
yea i fold pre too - don't even really consider any other option close imo - way better hands to 3bet bluff with

Name one? I don't know any.


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letmewinplz8
Joined: 15.05.2010

Originally posted by chenny8888
Name one? I don't know any.

KTs

Besides though messing around vs this utg 3x and especially if it is the $22 deepstack on stars I think it is is not a good idea - we cannot 3bet AJ for value oftentimes and folding is a lot better, there are many many softer spots in this tournament with 30 minute levels lol


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

That's true, if we have 0 bluffing hands then I think AJo can be a fold.

But the moment we want a hand to start bluffing with, I think AJo is the best candidate. There are a couple more boards where we can just check back and try reach showdown in a 3bet pot. That being said, KTs/KJs are also very good hands.


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