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Hi!

That should be an easy cbet turn and basically a 3barrell hand. He will have a lot of Kx,Qx hands at this point and you want him to fold them,you also protect yourself from not getting bluffed when you have the best hand. And above all you dont rly need much FE due to your monster draw.

As played I would go for c/r on the river. He has a lot of busted draws,Qx,Kx hands which you extract more from by checking. If he has 6x,7x he will clearly bet and also I believe he will bet with 5x(or lower pocket) since your hand rly looks like Ax.

Do you have a check-raise range (for value) on the turn? If you do, then you could take a hand like this and check-raise bluff with it on the turn + barrel river.

Hi!

I dont think its a best spot to be c/r-ing. I would never c/r here with AA just for the fact that I believe he will check behind way too often. Checking on the most harmless turncard just smell like you are going to c/c therefore there is very little point in him betting Kx,Qx and even Ax here. Betting on the other hand may look much weaker and can provoke occational bluffraises or even valueraises that you beat(like 7x,...)

I think that I am cbetting my entire range here.

Originally posted by Dawnfall26
Hi!

I dont think its a best spot to be c/r-ing. I would never c/r here with AA just for the fact that I believe he will check behind way too often. Checking on the most harmless turncard just smell like you are going to c/c therefore there is very little point in him betting Kx,Qx and even Ax here. Betting on the other hand may look much weaker and can provoke occational bluffraises or even valueraises that you beat(like 7x,...)

I think that I am cbetting my entire range here.

Right, I sort of knew this objection would pop up. It is valid of course.

I meant exclusively that if you do actually have a check-raising range for value here, then that range, in theory, should be balanced somehow. Such a range is mostly exploitative in nature (it is an out-of-sequence-play) and depends more on the opponent than the board. You need the opponent to fire a lot. If this is the case, I still like the check-raise. With this hand, a check-back isn't a disaster because you may well be beat and have a million outs. But it's not my default vs unknown.

I would semibluff with this hand and rather check/call with K8 K4 K9 with no Flushdraw and with a tiny bit more showdownvalue. Normally you also should have a checkraising-range and since many pairs and draws are possible, it's quite likely that villain bets any 5x and 6x if checked to but just calls if facing a bet himself.

I would not checkraise Hands with 88 99 blockers and rather checkraise with overpairs, to make it more likely he's having 7x whereas if you have K7 yourself, he's less likely to have 7x. So with hands like JJ QQ i like checkraising the Turn and to have just a few combos is enough. J8 or T8 or this hand is a potential semibluff hand but though i'd basically bet and as played the donk is bad. He's betting any pair against your Ax or he's following through with a bluff so you don't have to worry much but by donking you make him seriously being concerned to be up against a flush.

if you cbet 100% then u dont need a c/r range! and this board seem perfect for 100% cbet turn

true but 100% cbet is obviously wrong and you need to check a good bunch of ui Jx Qx Kx hands. cbetting again JT etc is just spew.

This board villain will call flop close to 100% of the time. Betting turn with JT is certainly not a spew since he will have a ton of better hands still and since I am valubetting here pretty thin having more bluffs in my range is also totally legit.

Strategy which I think is fine(however I dont implement it) is to have a checking range on the flop. Where we might actually have a hand like JT. Since what is the point of betting if you plan on giving up turn when you expect him to call 90-100% of the time. More that I think about it this is a really good board to have a checking range on the flop.