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[NL2] complicated AK draw

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$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

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[tg]CO$1.05:///////;BU$1.84:///////;SB (Hero)$2.02:///////;BB$2.00:///////;MP2$2.88:///////;MP3$0.70:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with K:s, A:h.
3 folds, BU raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.18, BU calls $0.14.

Flop: ($0.6) 3:s, 5:s, 2:s (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.30, BU calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30.

Is check/call appropriate? Flash draw + gutshop + overcards ... 15 outs? 2.5:1 odds? Half pot bet gives us 3:1. BUT. We might be already behind, and someone might have A:s too... so I don't know.

Turn: ($1.5) K:d (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BU checks.

I didn't feel too bold with my TPTK on this board, so I didn't protect it much. Should I?

River: ($1.5) T:c (3 players)
Hero bets $0.68, BB folds, BU folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

Thin value from KQ? Or a block bet in a way: I didn't want to see a big bet coming my way.

Thank you!

German


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TortoiseAndHare
Joined: 24.01.2014

Hi Th334,

Not sure how you're counting your outs here. 9 for the fd, 4 for gutshot, 2 aces and 3 kings I would say: 18 outs, but not all nuts.

Check/call on the flop is too passive here I would say. You have a monster (strong draw (2nd nuts, gutshot + 2 overcards). Would raise here with the aim to go all-in. Call by BU improves your pot odds to 4:1.

As played the turn card is a bet. Scarecard that hits your range perfectly (TPTK).

Think your river block bet only makes worse hands fold here. Think it should be a thin value bet here since all checked the turn. T is not a draw completing card and opponents havent show any action.


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Originally posted by TortoiseAndHare
Hi Th334,

Not sure how you're counting your outs here. 9 for the fd, 4 for gutshot, 2 aces and 3 kings I would say: 18 outs, but not all nuts.

Check/call on the flop is too passive here I would say. You have a monster (strong draw (2nd nuts, gutshot + 2 overcards). Would raise here with the aim to go all-in. Call by BU improves your pot odds to 4:1.

As played the turn card is a bet. Scarecard that hits your range perfectly (TPTK).

Think your river block bet only makes worse hands fold here. Think it should be a thin value bet here since all checked the turn. T is not a draw completing card and opponents havent show any action.

I don't know where I got 15 Yes, my friend, but you didn't discount the 4:s either ;) It's 17, so neither of us was correct

The problem on the flop is that against an A:s we have no outs whatsoever, and against two other we have just seven! It's not a monster by any means, if you ask me. It's still a clear call here, I agree, especially after the BU.

So what is the purpose of your turn bet? Value from draws? What if the BB already had a monster on the flop? I decided that TPTK is not a value bet here, and wanted to get to a cheap showdown. If you're trying to bluff (by saying that it hits our perceived range) then why would we bluff? Nothing stronger will ever fold.

When BB checks back I agree, probably he didn't have a made hand, but I was OOP, so I didn't have this information.


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