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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by ruedigerhofnar
ah thank u aent.. tried it with imageshack...
so heres my graph, thanks weasel !

Hey, nice to see you at the tables :)

In response to your question - I wasn't making a vid earlier but I do play the micro-limits from time to time.

I take coaching micros seriously and imo being able to beat high limits does not automatically qualify you to inform people of the best play at 10nl. So I play all limits from time to time and keep in touch with the general dynamic.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by MagXedin
well i dont have, i just wanted to have an idea jf possible $/h. is 5bb on NL10 too high? so its even less then 2.25$/h? why would anyone (any reg) play there then? for fun?

Hi, MagXedin,
We play the lower limits to build skill, experience and (hopefully) a bankroll that will take us higher. And yes, for fun.

Best of luck,
--VS


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

@MagXedin

It's possible to play like 1k hands per hour with zoom 4-tabling so with winrate of 5bb/100 that'd be $5 per hour.

That's well below average wages in well developed countries. In other countries this is a decent wage and enough to live on. There are literally some guys who play 5nl/10nl professionally.

This is uncommon though. The primary reason is that guys want to work their way through the limits. A lot of guys feel way more comfortable starting at 2nl with $50nl as opposed to investing several thousand so they can start at $100nl or something.


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

What limit do you play yourself, i don't know.

Silly me. _biggrin:


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MagXedin
Joined: 10.10.2010

w34z3l, ok ur reasoning seems fine to me, thank you) looks like im not gonna transition to cash though xD

but anyways since i already watched the series i d probably play a little and post some hands in evaluation thread. never played too much postflop so gonna be fun xD

i also wanted to ask a very basic question. how does our range change when we face open+coldcall compared to just a raise? do we tight our range cause of more players involved? or do we squeeze more instead of coldcalling hoping for initiative+hu? you probably mentioned it somewhere in the series but i dont remember (

ps the series is great, you are very good at explaining


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Hashkan
Joined: 27.08.2011

Definitly a tendency from fish is to reraise paired boards. Happens sooo frequently and they dont stop firing once they reraised. What is ur approach to it?

Also lets say flop comes dry Q72r multiway and u hold AQ, if u underbet or halfpotsizebet it , fish enterpret it as weakness in hes mind and start reraising and as usual, dont stop firing and I end up folding to much I sence.


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JackieHoo
Joined: 06.12.2011

@w34z3l

I am watching your second part of it"you raise ,I 3bet"
first, on the period of 19:44
"opponent has called 2/2 3bets "

second ,on the period of 20:57,it's regarding to expand your 3bet bluff
"zoom,if opponent has folded 2/2 to 3bets they are likely decent target"

I didn't understand the two sence meaning , if you have time ,pls kindly explain it.


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G0ldFish89
Joined: 16.03.2014

It's too late to start yet?What need to do?


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Tdot1
Joined: 02.02.2014

I would also like to watch the videos, but I cant even find them. I can only find the ranges in the spoilers, but there are no videos ?

hope you can help me, because thats exactly what i am looking for


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darkonebg
Joined: 17.01.2008

Hey guys,

You can always watch the video series - it's in our video section:
Link

Don't forget to come back to this thread for future reference (ranges, homeworks, etc).
It's also now clearly linked in the OP of this thread (previous link was a bit vague).

Have fun learning!

Best,
Kamen


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ch1ll3dkro3t3
Joined: 12.04.2008

Dear W34z3l,

Thank you for this great collection of videos and your dedication to the micro stakes. Due to my pokerstrategy status, I cannot watch all of your videos.

I have one question about 4 bets:

What should I do after my bluff 4b gets 5b? Is it a clear fold in every situation or do I have to call sometimes?

Regards


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by G0ldFish89
It's too late to start yet?What need to do?

No, never too late :) Watch the vids, post your homework in the thread, that's it! Enjoy :)


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by JackieHoo
@w34z3l

I am watching your second part of it"you raise ,I 3bet"
first, on the period of 19:44
"opponent has called 2/2 3bets "

second ,on the period of 20:57,it's regarding to expand your 3bet bluff
"zoom,if opponent has folded 2/2 to 3bets they are likely decent target"

I didn't understand the two sence meaning , if you have time ,pls kindly explain it.

"opponent has called 2/2 3bets" - So far he as been 3bet twice and called both times.

"zoom,if opponent has folded 2/2 to 3bets they are likely decent target" - If opponent has been 3b twice and folded both times it's likely that he folds to too many 3bets (but not guaranteed by any means)


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by ch1ll3dkro3t3
Dear W34z3l,

Thank you for this great collection of videos and your dedication to the micro stakes. Due to my pokerstrategy status, I cannot watch all of your videos.

I have one question about 4 bets:

What should I do after my bluff 4b gets 5b? Is it a clear fold in every situation or do I have to call sometimes?

Regards

Yes, fold every time your 4b bluff doesn't work in the vast majority of cases. If you are 4betting for value then call in most cases.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Thanks a lot guys, please let me know if I've missed your question.

If you are interested in more material check out the gold-bootcamp live coachings or send me a PM if interested in private coaching.


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blicax
Joined: 23.05.2013

Hi w34z3l

nice vids.. and nice work... can u tell me if u allready upload ur Hud for ppl download?

Regards


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pokHero
Joined: 10.03.2008

Hi w34z3l,

Thanks for your work. Great series of videos and coachings.

I am currently redefining my preflop ranges and I am using your charts as one of the source of knowledge.

There is just one thing I have probleme wrapping my head around, QJs vs open from UTG or MP.

You are almost never including this hand for cold calling or 3betting versus an open of those 2 positions. For example vs UTG open you you will call with 76-JTs and KQs, skipping QJs.

Is there any reason this very particular hand is not in your cold calling or 3 betting chart?

Thank you again


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Adamast0r
Joined: 22.07.2014

I think.. for my own experience that hand can couse us some complications.. is that simple.. its more easy for us to fold a 87s from a missing bord.. then call a Jxx bord, and put us in some complications beacouse this kind of hand its alot of times the vilan botom open raise..

Sorry my bad english..

regards


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blicax
Joined: 23.05.2013

Hi again
can u tell me smthg please.. for exemple in ur vids.. 1 and 2.. ur calling range BB vs CO tell us to cal with AQs and ur 3bet for the same position tell us for 3bet... its our choise?? cc or 3bet?

hugs


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wlcKeD
Joined: 24.02.2009

Originally posted by ruedigerhofnar
ah thank u aent.. tried it with imageshack...
so heres my graph, thanks weasel !

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WOW f*ck man, thx for sharing these results and THIS GRAPH, looks f*ckng AMAZING !!! [pardon my language, but there's just NO other way to express it ...]
50BI UP in one WEEK !! And not just "up", but WOW those STEADY red and green lines ....... :f_eek: :f_eek: :f_eek: :f_eek: :f_eek: Feeling very inspired by you, and gonna try to do something at least half similar !


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