NL2 SH, QQ in 4bet pot

{QQ-88,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s} ~43%

{QQ-88,QJs,T9s,98s} ~39%

I think it's a clear call. You will lose more often than not, but still it's a +EV call with the money in the pot.

QJs,JTs,T9s,98s seems too loose vs 4bet.
Maybe, overall, it is a call. I think, folding is not a big (if any) mistake.

Also, why are you not including KK+? For sure he would just flat PRE with 1 player behind.

From the start he dosnt have QJs,JTs,T9s,98s in his 3brange btn vs utg. Either 88 99, perhaps TT but most players flat Tt btn vs utg. OTF he is repping a very narrow range imo, like KK+ and some random spew. I dont Think its a mistake to fold OTF here...

This is not even remotely close. Look at his stack. He is a fish. 100% he has ATo and ATs in his range here which alone is enough to make it super easy call but he will have worse hands than AT fairly often as well.

Folding here vs fish is HUGE mistake. HUGE.

Every unknown player with smaller stack is not a loose fish, who calls 4bets very light.
Some times he will have worse, most of them time he will have me beat.

Folding (IMO) might be a mistake, but not a HUGE one.

Originally posted by dienaszaglis
Every unknown player with smaller stack is not a loose fish, who calls 4bets very light.
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When its 87bb then yeah they pretty much always are. 50bb can be parasite shortstack nit but 87bb, nope.

If someone found me an unknown guy with 87bb, I would lay 20:1 that they are fish and in long run make profit off that bet imo

Either way I tend to play more cautiously vs unknows.
Don`t want to risk too much $ and risk 'reverse implied tilting', if I loose (thinking I made wrong decision, even if it is not)
Still need to play more to get feel for micros, donks ranges, tendencies etc.

I do not agree that the fold here is a huge mistake. Everyone has to acknowlidge that even fish sometimes have the best hand.

against a player with 87bbs I am assuming he is a casual player.

He can over value top pair in this situation like ATs,ATo or JT with a straight draw to go with his top pair.

One thing I learned at 2nl from personal experience is if they made the decision to call with their hand, it doesn't matter what amount you bet. I went AI with JJ+ against stackers similar to your opponent and they snapped with QTs.

I would call in this situation.

BTW what did he have?

Apparently, made a HUGE mistake folding the flop.

I may be wrong, but your bet on the flop looks too small to me. Ordinarily on such a flop with an overpair, I would raise at least twice that much. Here, as Villain will be pot-commited either way, I would just go all-in. If I were Villain, your small bet would make me think you had AK.

I'm not sure that we should think too much about Villain's range here, when all we know is that he's playing NL2 with 87BB in his stack and he has just 3-bet small.