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PLO10 - 4bet pot with rainbow rundown OOP 150bb deep

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riprlz
Joined: 06.11.2007

So on this hand I'm agains what seems to be a loosish reg, I 3bet for value cause this hand plays easily post flop with lower SPR and I also think that when we both hit the flop I will have the better draw on stuff like 89x when he will have QJT* or JT9* or like on a board with J9x they will have like J986 and stuff like that and so I think he would make mistakes 150bb deep with 6-7 SPR with bad equity, on the other hand I have no suits, and might be vulnerable(and maybe getting crushed) on a suited flop, and they come very often.
When I get 4bet by this player with this stacksizes I think hes range is almost exclusivelly AA** with this stacksizes, even though I never played him, but just because this is the 'std' at this field.
So I think with this hand I should call, I'll have a SPR for a CRAI if he bet big on the flop and I think I flop >30% equity >30% of the time vs AA** with this hand, do I ?

So at the flop, I think that it is wet enough for a AA** hand to cbh and maybe try to realize some equity with stuff like AAJ*/AAT*, or AA**hh, or maybe see a safe turn, don't know. So I thought that by pot donking flop I might put the pressure on him and try to make him make a mistake of folding 50% equity on a spot like that.

What do you think are the pros and cons of the way I played it ?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $15.78 (157.8 bb)
BB: $50.65 (506.5 bb)
UTG: $21.52 (215.2 bb)
MP: $14.18 (141.8 bb)
CO: $35.13 (351.3 bb)
BTN: $12.18 (121.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 Q J T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1, BB folds, CO raises to $3.10, Hero calls $2.10

Flop: ($6.30) Q K 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.03, CO raises to $24.12, Hero calls $6.65

Turn: ($31.66) 2 (2 players)
River: ($31.66) Q (2 players)

Results:

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$31.66 pot ($1.35 rake)
Final Board: Q K 5 2 Q
Hero showed 9 Q J T and won $30.31 ($14.53 net)
CO showed A K 4 A and lost (-$15.78 net)


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I would much rather check-raise instead of donk. If he has Aces with a flushdraw, it doesn't matter what you do. If he has bare aces and doesn't want to stack off, you get some value from them. And if he has air (for some reason) you get some value with check-raise.


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JohnCenaFA
Joined: 29.12.2009

Hey Kyyberi!

If he has dry aces and bets in this pot, e.g. 5usd, he has to call out ch/r, doesn't he?
And we are flipping only versus this type of hands. If we would have been 250bb-s pre, the ch/r would be a much more powerful tool in my opinion.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

I think kyyberi missread the hand. Donking is obviously superior as it's a big win for us if he ever folds AA there. That said the preflop 3bet is really bad, and the call is not the best play either after getting 4bet.


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riprlz
Joined: 06.11.2007

Originally posted by Skodljivec
I think kyyberi missread the hand. Donking is obviously superior as it's a big win for us if he ever folds AA there. That said the :club: preflop 3bet is really bad, and the :diamond:call is not the best play either after getting 4bet.

:club: Why ?

:diamond: and what would it be ?


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Because you don't have a good starting hand. 60% of boards are single suited, and on those boards a bare flush draw will already have 40% equity against you even if you hit something like 2 pair + draw. So it's definetly not a hand you want to build the pot 150 bb deep OOP.

About the call of the 4bet i'm not sure how much + EV it is. I think it's still + EV, but it's not a huge win in BB's for you. I'm too lazy to do the math here as i'll never be in this spot since i will never 3bet that hand in the first place


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I looked that the hero has 22$ behind on the flop, not $12. :)


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