[Closed] FL SH Gold Monday

July 21

This Session could have been better, i was playing 2/4, 3/6 and 5/10 and loosing slightly. I had one Hand where i decided to play a line that you don´t play very often: call Turn, Raise/fold River

This was the Situation (Sorry, the hand converter does not work):

Dealt to Cornholio [ :heart:10 :heart:A]
Loomy74: Fold
Cornholio: Raise (NF) $2.00
jean13260: Fold
vitospapa: Fold
StefanNRW: Call $1.00
FLOP [:diamond:K :diamond:K :heart:T]
StefanNRW: Check
Cornholio: Bet $1.00
StefanNRW: Call $1.00
TURN [:diamond:3]
StefanNRW: Bet $2.00
Cornholio: ? Calls, planing to raise non diamond rivers.

I think to just call down is to weak, i get value from a lot of worse madehands. I could raise the Turn, playing that line i would get 1 more Bet from draws for sure. but there a several reasons why i like a riverraise more:

it would be very ugly to get 3bet on the turn, since im beat most of the time but might also get bluffraised by a draw and i have 4 outs against a flush. also i think he would barrel every draw on the river anyway, usually if somebody starts bluffing he is not giving up the river, so i get the same amount from draws.
also i think i have better chances to get light calls since most guys dont fold a pair on the river for 1 Bet.
and i don´t think i get 3bet on the river as bluff ever, this is much more unlikly then to get bluffraised on the turn, so i could find an easy fold to a 3bet.

July 28

I´m running really bad in this coaching. I cant remember a day where i did not loose on the only 5/10 table i play, this time 250$, only beats and setups all the time. Here are the stats of todays coaching:

There were only few intersting hands, pretty much standard stuff:

In this Hand i picked up a Monster Draw on the Turn. There are 2 hands he might fold to a Turn c/r: TT and JJ. But this is enough given my very strong equity. If he folds these hands its a +ev move.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J♠ K♠
2 folds, CO raises, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, CO caps, Hero calls.

Flop: Q♣ 5♦ A♠ (9SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: 8♠ (5.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.

River: 8♥ (9.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Results:
Final pot: 9.5BB

August 4

The Session was ok, i won 50$ or something = break even. we had a few interesting players on the tables, that played strange moves, especially i saw very interesting (=bad ) cheap SD moves, they seem to be pretty popular at the moment.very strange: i folded a twopair on the river twice, because i did not recognize it.

The first time i was told that my oppenent had a set so maybe i saved money there if he was serious, maybe this time i was also saving 2BB, he could easily have me beat here with a higher twopair or set i should maybe pay more attention.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Hero is CO with K8.

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K♥ 8♥
2 folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: K♠ T♦ A♣ (9.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4♠ (5.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: 8♦ (7.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: 7.75BB

August 11

This Coaching i played 2 3/6 Tables and 1 Table FTOPS- a FL Tournament on FTP with 900 Entrants and a buy in of 216$. Not much was happening there till the end of the Coaching and i was close to my beginning stack. the results will be posted in the next Coaching Review.

In the Cashgame i played that hand:

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8♠ T♥
4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop: 2♥ J♥ 7♦ (4SB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: 4♥ (3BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

River: 2♦ (7BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB

After the c/r on the Turn i never put him on a madehand since he would have bet it for protection, so i waited for the river for a safe card to raise him of his better flushdraw or diffrent bluff. maybe he is even tough enough to fold a pair there but this is unlikely to bet c/r on the turn.

in the cashgame i won 170$, so overall it was break even.

Update Turnier:

update 2 o clock at night:
Entrants: 932
Remaining: 43
My Position: 6. with 156.00 Chips.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3000/$6000
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $15740
UTG+1: $129483
MP1: $14024
MP2: $50237
CO: $46980
Hero: $79428
SB: $51568
BB: $32494

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with J♥ 9♥
5 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 3♥ 8♠ A♥ (9SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: A♦ (5.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: J♣ (5.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.5BB
Hero showed Jh 9h
BB showed 8d Kh

update 2.30 clock at night:
Entrants: 932
Remaining: 28
My Position: 2. with 246.00 Chips.

I just played a hand against the long time chip leader Markus Golser, one of the Top Full tilt pros. He tried to 2barrel bluff me, bur my hand was pretty solid.

Update: I FreeSD Raise a Bigstack from a better hand

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $6000/$12000
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with 3♥ 3♣
4 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: T♣ T♦ T♥ (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: K♥ (3.25BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

Results:

Edit: 15 guys Left. Chipleader for the first Time!
Final pot: 5.25BB

Result:

I was the Chipleader on the Final Table, then gut suckouted twice with 2 outs and lost the allin with a better hand :/

7th for 6k$. not bad but should have been the 40k

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Hello!

Do you share HH from the last coaching?

I would like to discuss the profit/nonprofits of getting a maniac image in the next coaching if thats possible.

Hi, i now have a good software again, so from now on there will be Hands posted here after every Coaching and also some topics can be discussed.

I just want to leave my thanks. Your coaching is always highly entertaining and informative. FR, SH, HU and off-topic: 4 things in one coaching - even better than "Kinder Überraschung".

Thanks a lot.

November 3

Thanks dr.colosso! Glad to hear that. This time we had that much diffrent type of games running at the same time because Firsttsunami was facing internet problems and was kicked right after he started to play, so i improvised a little bit playing some tables ultra short/HU.

Like in the last Coaching i had pretty much bad luck against bad players in Heads Up, not hitting a hand or getting sucked out.
I had one oppenent who came to the tables, played 5 handed, won 5 of it (although i think all were played perfectly that means standard by me), and then left the next one was donking 80% of the Flops, most of the time with trash.
I either had absolutely nothing and had to fold (he was also not folding even if he had nothing, so raising wasnt good neither) or he sucked me out on the turn or river after purebluffing the Flop. Like in this Hand:

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (2 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♦, 4♣
Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 6♦, 5♣, Q♦ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.00 BB) 7♠ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.00 BB) 4♥ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.00 BB

Villain shows K8.

But all in all i did not loose much, maybe at some time I even manage to win something

Originally posted by Cornholio
But all in all i did not loose much, maybe at some time I even manage to win something

I'm really curious, whether this will ever happen in the coaching. You seem to be a magnet for bad players on a winning streak on monday evenings. ♦

I missed first part of coaching and didn't attend previous few because of bronze status for a long time, but why do you play FR & SH & HU in the same coaching? I'm not complaining as I really liked it this week, but as you said: FR is too boring
Good luck next time!
and more HU if possible

Originally posted by drcollosso

Originally posted by Cornholio
But all in all i did not loose much, maybe at some time I even manage to win something

I'm really curious, whether this will ever happen in the coaching. You seem to be a magnet for bad players on a winning streak on monday evenings. ♦

Actually, he's not the only one

Hi Opal, this was only improvising, beacuse when we wanted to switch to Firsttsunami, his Internet Connection broke down and i didn´t want to take to long to join Waiting Lists again to go on playing. That´s why i just took the tables that had a free Seat, this was A heads Up Game, A Ultra Short Game and a Full Ring Game.
Normaly i try to focuss on 6max. But maybe I will sometimes also play a little bit Heads Up if you want.

November 10

The Coaching was okay, i won around 100$, but i lost 330 for the Buy in of Event #11 of the FTOPS. It was a Mixed Limit Hold´em Tournament with 700 entrants.

I busted out in the Coaching with 68s as the PFA on a 79T board against J8o. My oppent called a 3/4 Potsize Bet on the Flop with a Gutshot. nh

In the Coaching there was this Hand:

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with K♠, J♦
MP3 folds, Hero raises, BU folds, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) T♠, 3♠, Q♦ (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB folds, Hero caps, SB calls.

Turn: (9.00 BB) 5♠ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (11.00 BB) A♠ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 13.00 BB

On the Flop i can raise for Value against two players, holding a strong Draw (the Overcard and Backdoor make it even better). After The BB folds the Question is if I should cap or only Call. The Problem after the Cap is: How to play the Turn? I could cap for Freecard, this is generally not a bad play, but it cannot balance it,because it makes no sense to play it with a madehand. And my Hand is obvious.
But after i capped, i like the Turnbet, because the Flushdraw gets in, which makes it tough for him holding 1 Pair, since he is not having much Beat.
Also my Equity increased.

November 17

Today it was the first time when the Coaching started at 10 PM, which seems to be the much better time then 8PM before, there were much more listeners.

I was doing okay, in the first half of the Coaching i was hitting like 6 backdoorstraights but all in all i only won 50$ in the End, which is be.

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K♣, J♥
MP2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 2♥, Q♥, 9♣ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) 7♠ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.00 BB) 9♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.00 BB

In this Hand i have to call because of my odds/outs till the river, there i´m facing a decision whether to call or to fold. i think its a pretty easy call since im getting 1:9 and im ahead against pure bluffs, JT and flushdraws.

Since he will not c/r A high it makes no diffrence if i have K2 oder AK, both Hands beat the same hands of his range.

Is it possible to start 30 minutes earlier? Listening till 11.30 would make it rather hard for me - as part of the group of working students - to get up before 6 next morning. And I would really like to attend the whole coaching, cause it's the only one which is compatible with my time-frame somehow.

i ask for it, 9.30 would be good.

Brilliant, thanks a lot.

November 24

Today we had some Problems again with Firsttsunamis connection. For a unknown reason his internet always busts after 30 minutes. That meant that i had to play around 1 hour. I was break even, but there were a lot of tough spots and I´m not sure if i played that well.

we had some discussions regarding hands like that:

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3♦, 3♠
2 folds, Hero raises, BU folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) 2♦, 9♣, 7♣ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8♠ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) Q♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Raise Flop? Calldown? Raise Turn?

I think every Line is viable depending on the opponent:

Raise Flop: Against very aggro opponents that are likely to 3Bet worse Hands to a Flopraise.
Raise Turn: This Line is especially good, if you have a safe fold to a 3bet, then you charge him the max for his overcards.
But if you have no reads and he 3bets, its really ugly.
against unknown you should choose a Line that inculdes a showdown:
Calldown: Good if you definetly want to see a showdown, also good if your opponent has a low PFR and you don´t know if you are a favorit.

I just saw, that you managed to move the coaching to 9.30.
Thanks a lot, I'll be there next monday. Your the king ♦

No Problem The date was also a little bit better for me.

Dezember 2

The Session today took place on 3/6 and 5/10 and wasn´t really exiting and i think i did not play really good, i definately had a weak day. There were not to many wrong decisions, but when it was close i tended to the weaker choice.

I was close to break even, maybe loosing 60$.

Here we have an example for a c/r with initiative:

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♦, 7♣
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4.00 SB) K♦, T♦, 3♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.00 BB) 6♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5.00 BB) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9.00 BB

I think the spot is generally good: His handrange does not include a lot of K or T high hands, i believe he would have raised it earlier. also he would probably have 3bet a A preflop. When he is holding a low pair, he will probably not call the river anyway, thats why a check/raise seems to be good: very often he will have a lower flush and valuebet/call it, this time he had the 7 :diamond:.

Dezember 8

The Tables today were not too good. I scanned some hours before and tried to select good tables, but most were full of tag-like players. In the End i found 3 ok 3/6-5/10 tables. I was down in the middle, in the ende i just lost around 100$. I lost a lot of money on missed draws and some setups.

We discusses a topic we were talking about pretty often before: how to handle 3Bets IP-

without reads its always hard to figure out if it indicates a strong or a weak hand. A lot of tags play their strong hands cf rt and just 3bet their weak hands on the flop, eiather for a freecard or for a cheap SD. Thats why i tend to cap pretty thin against these plays, very often sometrhing like this happens:

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7♥, 8♥
Hero raises, BU 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 8♦, 5♦, 6♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets, Hero raises, BU 3-bets, Hero caps, BU calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 3♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 3♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

BU shows A T

Its important in these situations, that you dont c/c the river. Very often the 3bet is A high, and this hand will call a valuebet most of the time.