25NL Bluff catcher vs agro

I do not like opening this hand especially vs a decent aggressive reg villain. Most of the time he will attack you or even if he just call you will play a weak hand OOP vs agro reg. You should open this hand only if he is passive and does not defend enough his blind.
Postflop do you have a fold button on your screen somewhere?

I called it down, villian showed A2c but i'm not sure at what point i can really fold / theory if i'm ok to call it down here. Vs average player then it's a fold somewhere because they can't tripple overbet their busted draws

fold bb to steal was enough to autoprofit ATC which is surprising considering his stats

the line & betsize is so polorizing the only hand he can overbet here is 22, quads or 99 and theres not many combos but maybe i'm bluff catching too light if i'm doing this will all my 9x hands - note my 9x is better than overpairs to bluff catch with here but maybe i need to check the weaker 9's OTF because bet/folding sucks

I prefer a flop check call

Yes, x/call flop sounds reasonable.

If he folds like 60%+ vs this sizing, then it's ok to open raise any two cards, of course. I would generally raise to 3bb's from the SB, but it's up to one's preferences. If he is tight to steals, as you said, then we have to assume that his calling range is stronger than usual and therefore we should take his flop raising line with causion, imo. Sets are very possible, but he probably has some FD's, too.

As the flop play is concerned, I don't mind cbetting because we are out of position with a weak TP and the board is drawy, so I wouldn't give an initiative away. I don't think our hand could stand 2 or 3 barrels. If he is really tight (I would check his play vs flop cbets, along with his excact preflop stats vs steal, BB vs SB), then I don't see a problem with bet/folding the flop. If he is capable of raising draws there, then we can bet/call, but would be tricky on the turn (that's why check/calling the flop comes into consideration, despite of giving an initiative away). If we suspect that he is capable of raising flops with draws and barreling turns, we can plan to check/call blanks on the turn, and I think that Kh is pretty much a blank.

Following the pattern, we could probably plan to check/call blank rivers, if we think that he is capable of barreling rivers with busted draws. The way he played the river... I think that you are right that he is polarized. If he thinks that you are a calling station, then I would believe him having a strong hand there, but otherwise his bet really looks like a bluff because I don't see him betting strong hands like that. I wouldn't go with the assumtion that "he thinks that you would think that this size means a bluff, so he decided to take this line with a FH". So, I would be inclined to bluffcatch vs this sizing rather than vs 1/2 or 2/3.

Originally posted by mattyvx
I called it down, villian showed A2c but i'm not sure at what point i can really fold / theory if i'm ok to call it down here. Vs average player then it's a fold somewhere because they can't tripple overbet their busted draws
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You can use game theory instead of trying to guess what he has. Call with your best bluff catchers and fold the worst. There is of course math in between, but this here must be the very bottom of our range, at least by the river. Trivial fold for me (provided I get to the river).

Randomizing this way (a 94 has about the same value here as A9, both beat bluffs and both lose to value bets) makes sure you don't call too much or too little. Finding exactly where the line should be drawn takes a bit of work.

(And no, the 7 OTR was not a good card, now you don't beat 7x any more (this guy obv likes to push his small pairs). Only small unpairing cards OTR are good.)

Originally posted by YohanN7
(And no, the 7 OTR was not a good card, now you don't beat 7x any more (this guy obv likes to push his small pairs). Only small unpairing cards OTR are good.)

I also agree that 7 OTR is not a good card, for the reason you said, but the question for me is - does he overbet trips and fullhouses?

7 should be a a great blanking card for us as now there is only one combo of 77, one combo of 99, two combos of 97s and three combos of 22 (if my combos are right)

I'm not worried about beating 7x because he shouldn't have any 7x in his range for raise flop and barrell turn, the board pairing cards are the best cards for us on the river facing this betsize

if i give him only two pairs, sets & NFD's (a2-at clubs) then our equity isn't good but i guess it really depends how many draws he is really raising in the spot.

readless or vs an average tag I would probably fold at some point earlier in the hand but we have to start questioning our game plan vs regs if we want to bet fold top pair i guess

Which brings right back to my real point, never mind the 7. If you fold your worst bluff catchers and call with the best, you don't have to try to figure out before showdown what he is actually holding. It is impossible anyway, especially with this guy and good LAGs in general.

after you call F and T, a bluffcatch OTR is mandatory on that card . When he shoves River , he either has nuts or nothing. Shoving Kx or 9x is overplaying imo. There are a lot of missed draws and less 77 combos. You block 97 and 99 which is great. I would call, but I would fold vs Raise OTF.

Nuts or nothing doesn't mean we have to call. It is always the case villain is either bluffing or not.

What I am saying is that we have

• A9 (12)
• Q9 (12)
• J9 (12)
• T9 (12)
• 98s (3)
• 96s (3)
• 95s (3)

in alles 57 hands we will play nearly the same way that are better. Say we have a few worse hands too for the sake of discussion, like 30 SD/FD combos. If we now call with 95s, then we fold only 1/3. This is too little to an overbet that needs to succeed 66% (or whatever, doesn't matter). Calling here is a purely exploitative play versus someone bluffing way to much.

I understand what you mean. We should bluffcatch with our best bluffcatchers and 95 is definetely at the bottom, but the way he played this hand OTF and OTT force him to call the River. There is no better board for a bluffcatch.

Here the only reason for you to call on river should be if you put him on a missed FD.
In fact he played the hand exactly like it - raised F, bet T but small as if not to be expensive. ..
I do not think 7x are raising F but who knows...