[Closed] NL10 JJ play

Without stats I would push all-in preflop against a reraise.

As played, bet flop, because board is draw heavy and you need to protect your hand against FD and OESD, so bet like 1.40-1.50$ and push to a reraise.

I was putting him 99 % on AA or KK, and i was right (in the end).

Sadly, my fault was, I didn't see that board as drawy.

.. and he made it with flush to A ..

If you were that sure he had KK+ then you should've folded preflop, but honestly I think you can never be that sure unless you had few reads from previous hands or large sample size for stats. So I think I push preflop most of the time.

Decide preflop wheither to go with the hand or not, calling is bad. Personally I fold to the reraise with a double stack.

Read the beginner articles again and push preflop

Originally posted by IngolPoker
Read the beginner articles again and push preflop

You did notice the double stack yeah? Some people say play only QQ+ or w/e with double stacks if you're a beginner, but opinions seems to differ a lot...

ah ok, i thought its 30bb...but even with 40bb i push preflop because we raised from MP. If we would have raised UTG, i would find a fold

however, calling is absolutely no option

Originally posted by IngolPoker
Read the beginner articles again and push preflop

I think in the beginner section you will find out, that this is a fold Preflop. The rule must be 4:1 or sometink like this.

On the Flop is a c/r a good option. Villian is PFA, so he will mostly do a c-bet on the Flop. But your reraise need to be higher. A bit more over Potsize. Because this Board is very drawy and he will also call a high raise with AA, KK on this Board.

if you really wanna argue about the beginners section....it says always push AK, JJ+

but thats not good always ♦

Originally posted by IngolPoker
if you really wanna argue about the beginners section....it says always push AK, JJ+

but thats not good always ♦

then they changed it. lets take a look.

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/822/5/#h1_5

I think you/we should talk on nl10 only about the stuff in the articels.

Originally posted by allizdoR

Originally posted by IngolPoker
if you really wanna argue about the beginners section....it says always push AK, JJ+

but thats not good always ♦

then they changed it. lets take a look.

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/822/5/#h1_5

I think you/we should talk on nl10 only about the stuff in the articels.

The article the same as it's always been, and if you look closer, you'll see JJ in the chart with pushing ratio up to 4:1 or higher, which means basically with any ratio.

Burek says it ^^

2.80:0.40 isnt 4:1 or I am wrong???

of course I call JJ also in 95% - 99% but I think in this articel stands something different.

Originally posted by allizdoR
2.80:0.40 isnt 4:1 or I am wrong???

of course I call JJ also in 95% - 99% but I think in this articel stands something different.

It's more than 4:1, but the article says "4:1 or higher" so this "or higher" means any ratio, no matter how big short stack you have left after the bet, you go all-in according to articles.

ah now I see it, JJ stands also in the upper list. I saw it only in the middle list.