2 OC as PFR OOP

T8x is generally going to be a bad flop to cbet bluff based on BTN's calling range

You can probably still x/c once though and if he has 77 or worse he will usually check turn so you get to realize a decent amount of your equity + sometimes have the best hand at SD too.

Agree that it is not so good to cbet this flop.

Originally posted by Alexnorge
If the A matters much, what if we have a OC like KQ, QJ instead of an AK/Q/J hand? Here we're also UTG with a strong starting range, so if there's advice on this if we're say CO instead or BvB, please do comment on that too.

I dont recommend opening QJ in UTG. However, KQ's yet decent enough to call vs missed cbet otf. In the event of playing against CO instead of BTN there's no noticable difference.

QJs is normal hand in UTG open range.
If we have QJs we have GS so we can x/c.

why do we think we shouldn't cbet here? I feel like our bluffs have alot of equity vs his bluffcatchers

is it because we don't feel comfortable barrelling the jack or queen because alot of his calling range will make pair+GS or two pair on our barrelling cards?
or is it because we feel we have showdown value?

I think cbet flop here can be OK since we have decent amount of cards for barreling turn but I don´t mind to x/c as well with SD value.

BU calling range preflop is hitting this board harder than us.

Originally posted by nitrol
BU calling range preflop is hitting this board harder than us.

does that mean we shouldn't cbet?

What about x/c AK and then KQ becomes more a bet?

Yes, we can x/call.

Originally posted by nitrol
BU calling range preflop is hitting this board harder than us.

OK I tried to put my ranges in calculator and it´s true that BTN has 55 % vs 45 % so you are probably right and x/call sounds OK

It is good to hear that.

Thanks for all the great discussions guys! Learned a lot

I usually check/fold this, but check/calling might be an option. I also like cbetting and planning to barrel J+ on the turn.

You can x/call here as we have around 40-45% equity. And we can barrel every overcard on turn.