AJo

Probably would cold4bet BTN as bluff or fold pre. Remember his BTN range is probably tighter because he is isolating 2 fishy players.

As played, flop I like. Turn you can bet bigger for max value from weaker & draws.

River you can make an expliotative fold.

What do you guys think of overbetting/shipping turn?

I don't like calling this hand preflop very much, since we will be OOP and probably multi-way. I think I would rather try with 3bet bluffing. As played, I think that leading this flop is fine. Not sure about the turn, but I think cbetting for protection against draws is fine. Maybe we could check/call. Then I think that the river is very very close. I would be inclined to fold, tbh.

Originally posted by livethelife7
What do you guys think of overbetting/shipping turn?

I don't like it very much. I don't think that flushdraws are calling every time. I suspect that we will isolate ourselves against better hands most often.

Originally posted by livethelife7
Probably would cold4bet BTN as bluff or fold pre. Remember his BTN range is probably tighter because he is isolating 2 fishy players.

As played, flop I like. Turn you can bet bigger for max value from weaker & draws.

River you can make an expliotative fold.

What do you guys think of overbetting/shipping turn?

Player in the button is a fish ,that's why I don't 3bet pre , don't want to build a huge pot pre without position and I Don't also want to 3bet / fold if he 4bets. I am calling because I think most of the times I will be ahead of his range .

Why would it be very close on the river either fold or call ? I think that he either has a Kx with a FD or busted FD imo . A set / 2pair type of hand I assume he will be raising my TURN bet very often because that K is a scare card even for him. I don't think he has many value hands on the river.

We should 3 bet or fold. The fact that BUis fish is a plus to that strategy. We do not mind him calling with a trashy hand, that he thinks is "beautiful".
When you look at the limpers stats it gives us more desire to raise, as more often he will join us when we call and our hand is not ok in a multi-way pot, OOP, without initiative.

Originally posted by livethelife7
What do you guys think of overbetting/shipping turn?

I think this is an interesting idea, but not sure we will achieve much, as 31/4 guy will not fold K there.

Player in the button is a fish ,that's why I don't 3bet pre , don't want to build a huge pot pre without position and I Don't also want to 3bet / fold if he 4bets. I am calling because I think most of the times I will be ahead of his range.

If you 3bet, you're calling his 33bb all-in.

PRE is pretty F**8ed given the stack size of the BU. From his stats in that 30 hand i think i like the most 3b-call vs him.
Flop is fine.
Turn u can bet a bit bigger , somethink like 1.5$ , also i dont like overbeting from the same resons that allen says
River i reealy dont know what is better : shoving or X-c (i will never fold after i check) he bett vs missCB on the R 52% wich lead me to play the same.
i see upp that u can make an exploitive fold on the R , i dont think this is an ok line given the pottodds that u have and the range that he can bet there.

i think u need to bee good given the potods more than 28~ , i put some ranges on EQ and result this:

Masă: J♣4♣3♦ K♦ K♥
       Equity  Câştig     Tie
MP2    57.58%  57.58%   0.00% { AdJs }
MP3    42.42%  42.42%   0.00% { K3s, KcQc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, Ac9c, Kc9c, Qc9c, Tc9c, Ac8c, Kc8c, Qc8c, Tc8c, 9c8c, Ac7c, Kc7c, 9c7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, Kc6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Kc5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Ac4c, Ac2c, Kc2c, KJo }

I don't give him any set , bc i dont expect him to play like that most of the times (and because i give him all combos of KJ wich he can not play like this) ,also he can bet somethink like QJ , but again i dont expect at this most of the times. He can may have a bit more/less bluffs but imo this is a pretty solid range that he can bet there.
So as u can see ur EQ is dam to high to ever fold there ever.
The only time i can fold there is in the moment then i have a read that he nevere bluf OTR. But also there is hard because he can value bet Jx.

Also , sorry for my ENG

Originally posted by partyace7
Flop is fine.

Can't really agree with this, donking half pot here is not fine imo, probably this fish has high cbet too so I wouldn't even donk but if he wasnt cbetting a lot and I did donk it would be much bigger, like $1.

yeah , this is true

Fun spot preflop indeed
Think all 3 options are fine actually - any reads I get would skew my decision

otf check shove vs button looks good to me

Preflop I would be coward and fold. We probably dominate BTN range but I don´t want to end up with AJo 4way OOP.

We should not x flop when mw here. ..

+1 for 3bet bluff because he might iso fishes really wide and taking down this pot right here right now when we are OOP is just delicious

But as played I am never folding river with such pot odds and paired king on the river, villain is probably a fish with busted draw or luckly holding K♣: X:club:, but w/e shit happens and I think call on the river is a must especially when he has such a high frequency so far of betting river vs missed cbet

Even vs a nearly pot bet?

We need to call 3,64 to 12,05 pot , so for breakeven call we need here 29,1% equity, I think it's easy river call when having such stats....

Give villain's river range.

Originally posted by nitrol
Give villain's river range.

Equity Win Tie
MP2 42.31% 42.31% 0.00% KK, JJ, 44-33, KcQc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, Ac9c, Kc9c, Qc9c, Tc9c, Ac8c, 9c8c, Ac7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, 6c5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c
SB 57.69% 57.69% 0.00% AdJs

Looks fair?

even like this call looks too juicy for me