[SH] Bluffing river with a busted FD in limped pot

I don't like check/raising this flop because I don't see much fold equity multi-way. But given that we have a semi-bluff, might be fine. Anyway, I would just check/call. Turn is fine, imo. On the river it's clear that we will win the pot only with betting, but the question is do thy fold A-high there. I think that our bet will not be profitable, but might be wrong.

Originally posted by Alleen86
I don't like check/raising this flop because I don't see much fold equity multi-way. But given that we have a semi-bluff, might be fine. Anyway, I would just check/call. Turn is fine, imo. On the river it's clear that we will win the pot only with betting, but the question is do thy fold A-high there. I think that our bet will not be profitable, but might be wrong.

Hey mate,

On the flop I think it's a combination of:
a) FE as all opponents showed weakness
b) building pot in case a club hits or we improve to a monster draw on a 4 or 8
c) setting up a spot to possibly semi-bluff OTT if we're left HU and a good card hits (Q, J, A)

Although it's true that I don't see CO folding here, as fish is not know to often min-bet flop and fold to a $0.06 raise. But if everybody else folds it's still good for us I think?

Calling is good, I like it about as much.

OTR, don't you think that our line looks strong and wouldn't you fold A-high here yourself? Or you mean that you don't think our opponents on average will be attentive enough to see anything?

Cheers.

yeah also when we x/r we only have a weak flush draw can easily be building a big pot with a dominated hand, kinda looks like one of them did have a bigger FD

Originally posted by mattyvx
yeah also when we x/r we only have a weak flush draw can easily be building a big pot with a dominated hand, kinda looks like one of them did have a bigger FD

Yeah you're right. Perhaps now I like calling more as well. Although if we call flop we wouldn't be able to bluff river anymore, but I'm happy with that. ♦ Definitely not bluffing this river won't be my biggest leak. ♦

Originally posted by Th334
OTR, don't you think that our line looks strong and wouldn't you fold A-high here yourself? Or you mean that you don't think our opponents on average will be attentive enough to see anything?

Our line does look strong, but I'm not sure that they combined will fold better hands often enough. On average, they don't like to fold A-high in this spot.

I like calling better too. We are mw with a weak draw and with a pair on board. We do not need to pump the pot.

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by Th334
OTR, don't you think that our line looks strong and wouldn't you fold A-high here yourself? Or you mean that you don't think our opponents on average will be attentive enough to see anything?

Our line does look strong, but I'm not sure that they combined will fold better hands often enough. On average, they don't like to fold A-high in this spot.

It is well to watch whether our hand looks truthfully told.

I prefer x/c flop because I don´t want to build big pot with weak draw. River in general it´s often good to bluff when both players check turn and we have 6high but here I don´t believe they fold their Ahigh so I would x/f

It is ok to bluff with a hand with no SDV but as the turn goes xxx no Ax is folding river.

I am calling the flop as someone above said there is no reason to build big pot with weak draw in multiway pot out of position. So I am just calling because pot odds are very friendly here.

As played I wouldn't have balls to bluff the river because I can't see much FEQ here

I don't think an observant villain will fall for our river bluff after our x on turn...