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[SH] TT 2nd pocket pair against odd bet sizing

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Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $2.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 1.8, Hands: 34
BTN: $2.40 - VPIP: 85, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 33
SB: $2.10 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 40
BB: $3.17 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 23
Hero (UTG): $2.15
MP: $1.93 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 9, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 34

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with T♥ T♣
Hero raises to $0.07, 1 fold, CO calls $0.07, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.17) 2♣ Q♠ 8♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.37) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18

River: ($0.73) 9♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.55, Hero folds

I take that it is a standard play?

What I'm not sure about is his turn and river bet sizing. A hand that would bet turn small and then bet river big is JT, which we partially block, and 99. So a good opponent will have either these two hands here or a bluff. But now nobody said we're playing against a good opponent, so it's still a standard fold?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Who knows what those sizes mean. I think we could bet the flop bigger, but not sure about the turn because it's such an ackward spot. I guess that bet/folding, check/calling and check/folding are all open. Probably he doesn't have many flushdraws, so checking is maybe better, but on the other way, we could have the best hand and our bet might be for value. I think check/calling is fine. I would then check/fold the river.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

can we just check /call the flop? i don't want to start buuilding a big pot here already OOP with a weak hand


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by mattyvx
can we just check /call the flop? i don't want to start buuilding a big pot here already OOP with a weak hand

Since we don't put him on many flushdraws, I think it would maybe be ok to check/call the flop. Not sure for the turn play, could we check/call again or we are check/folding.


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Mattyvx maybe wrong post? Here good spot for conti bet, rised utg, Q on flop


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Originally posted by mattyvx
can we just check /call the flop? i don't want to start buuilding a big pot here already OOP with a weak hand

OTF I kinda feel that we have good FE against some Jx, Kx type of hands that can still beat us, plus FDs, 8x, and lower pockets will pay us on the flop as well.

I don't like being OOP though. I feel like even if we are up against a FD an aggressive opponent will be able to make us fold the best hand on later streets if we show weakness and check. And betting multiple streets into a Q is also not ideal.

But then check/calling doesn't solve this much. Are we going to call turn as well?


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Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by mattyvx
can we just check /call the flop? i don't want to start buuilding a big pot here already OOP with a weak hand

Since we don't put him on many flushdraws, I think it would maybe be ok to check/call the flop. Not sure for the turn play, could we check/call again or we are check/folding.

He didn't call with weaker hand on flop?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by shefass

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by mattyvx
can we just check /call the flop? i don't want to start buuilding a big pot here already OOP with a weak hand

Since we don't put him on many flushdraws, I think it would maybe be ok to check/call the flop. Not sure for the turn play, could we check/call again or we are check/folding.

He didn't call with weaker hand on flop?

I think he might call a weaker hand on the flop when we bets, but the question was could we check/call. The spot is ackward, so I'm not sure what would be a standard play thereon flop/turn/river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Guys, we open from UTG, the flop is Qxx dry and we should cbet. With TT maybe we should bet turn too.


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Yeah, I think mattyvx confused the vacuum in my head with his question. :) When I think about it again, no way we open from UTG and don't bet a dry Qxx flop. It's like saying, "I don't have a Q, please take the pot." To make things worse we'll be calling at least one or two streets and that makes us lose even more money if the villain continues with the bluff resting assured that the best hand we ever have here is JJ.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009
Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I have to admit that x/c flop is my first idea too especially with club but don´t argue about it


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