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At which point to lay down AA?

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Pichux
Joined: 03.02.2009

Known Players:
MP2: $0,80 - 40 bb
MP3: $4,34 - 217 bb
CO: $3,93 - 197 bb
BU: $3,86 - 193 bb
SB: $0,81 - 41 bb
BB: $2,97 - 149 bb

0.01/0.02 No Limit Hold'em (6 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30112.9

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♦, A♣
SB posts small blind ($0,01), BB posts big blind ($0,02), 3 folds, Hero raises for $0,05, SB folds, BB calls

Flop: ($0,11 - 5.50 bb) K♥, 7♥, 3♥ (2 Players)
BB bets $0,06, Hero raises for $0,21, BB calls

Turn: ($0,53 - 26.50 bb) 3♣ (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0,32, BB raises for $0,64, Hero calls

River: ($1,81 - 90.50 bb) K♣ (2 Players)
BB bets $2,07, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled back ($2,07)

Recently got a new computer so I'm left without my tracking soft.
I have problems understanding how to play turn. I don't want to checkback because flush reasons, but at the same time i'm having a hard time thinking what he will call with. When he minraises I asume that he's strong holding at least a flush, but still, thought that maybe the AXh is still out there and called, somewhat ready to call blank rivers. After the hand I concluded that this river did me a big favor.


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Raise more preflop, but when your unknown oppo checkraises OOP a paired board with 3 hearts, I probably fold: even if it not the typical Baluga's theorem situation , according to which is to strongly reevaluate one-pair hands facing a turn raise, on the turn your oppo is repping so much strenght that you are basically hoping to hit your 2 outs.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Man, the line of villain is a very atypical. I have to say that its hard to figure out what is really going on here.
He could be outplaying u, he could have his Kx holding turned into a full house on river... hard to say w no relevant info on vilain, and since this is not a standard line to take, the guessing game takes place even more.


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

It can be hard to provide good information because at NL2 it is difficult to assume that the villain can be a thinking player.

However, on the assumption that he is, that turn minraise indicates that the player isn't defending his hand against anything - he is just raising value here. He doesn't fear a possible Ah flush redraw as the raise isn't big enough, which would possibly point towards a hand like 77 that filled up, or a flopped nut flush.

But like I said giving NL2 players, even regs, credit for such a decision is often a mistake by itself.

I would play as played, calling the turn and folding to the overshove.


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

Originally posted by Pichux
I have problems understanding how to play turn. I don't want to checkback because flush reasons, but at the same time i'm having a hard time thinking what he will call with. When he minraises I asume that he's strong holding at least a flush, but still, thought that maybe the AXh is still out there and called, somewhat ready to call blank rivers.

Betting turn is fine, he can call Kx, Ahx, pair+FD, even 7x if fish. When he minraises I agree that he is strong but I think he never has Ahx - this will just call or fold but never minraise. Turn minraises are usually very strong (they beat overpair) and rarely they show up with top pair because they wanted to see where they are in the hand (get some additional value, fold vs raise); never draws. This means your plan of calling blank rivers would be burning money.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Afulibador
Man, the line of villain is a very atypical. I have to say that its hard to figure out what is really going on here.
He could be outplaying u, he could have his Kx holding turned into a full house on river... hard to say w no relevant info on vilain, and since this is not a standard line to take, the guessing game takes place even more.

Too many words and no advice...

I like to bet flop and turn as there are weaker hands calling.
After the minraise we should fold. Flush + paired board and even the small size should not be tempting for us. Weaker hands are not playing like this.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

I really liked the words from Jaissica. If the player is actually thinking, this turn click-back is really value heavy.
Although its an atypical line, I would play the hand the same as hero. Base on population tendencies from this limit, I dont think we have a profitable call on the river.


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