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J8s 3way multiway, one fish coldcalled 3bet, 983 board, cbet ?

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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 282.2 BB
SB: 94.2 BB
Hero (BB): 129.8 BB
UTG: 98 BB
MP: 246.6 BB
CO: 216 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♠ J♠

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9.2 BB, UTG calls 8.2 BB, SB calls 6.2 BB

Flop: (27.6 BB, 3 players) 3♦ 9♠ 8♣
SB checks, Hero bets 13.6 BB, UTG raises to 27.2 BB, fold, fold

UTG wins 52.6 BB

UTG: unknown fish
SB: 19/19 16h

THis time I have 2nd pair, backdoor FD, so its better than air. But I still do not like that much to cbet, because its 3way, which means that they are more likely to hit, but most important is that coldcaller fish range can be very strong. He can even he can easily have hand like JJ, AK, AQ, and I think that AQ is not folding to one cbet 100 % of the time by fish and then he can float with good equity.

Fish can even have QQ+, QJ, JTs.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

For me this is just a call pre. OTF you can bet yourself. I think it is better than x/c. OTF you have to fold to villains raise. Limp call pre and raise river is a very strange line and most likely nuts.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I am calling preflop with your hand. Itis a good hand to play IP.
I like the idea of betting flop. I do not see a reason to be that afraid of AQ,AJ.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

The utg acts after him, so we cannot say he ll play in position. Still, it seems a call. Raising here is a bluff, and bluffing against two might not be the best aproach.
Flop u can find a fold when raised.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

IP to the raiser.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Originally posted by Afulibador
The utg acts after him, so we cannot say he ll play in position. Still, it seems a call. Raising here is a bluff, and bluffing against two might not be the best aproach.
Flop u can find a fold when raised.

yea, I also think that I will be most often 3way in midde so, I will not be able to bluff efectively. I think at least one of them fold very often when I 3bet and I still have hand which can hit good equity for bluffing.


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inceptioner
Joined: 23.05.2012

Yeah, I don't like the 3-bet if we have 0 info on the fish. As played cbet is fine and folding to the c/r is probably the right call.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Inceptioner, u mean folding to the c/r is probably the right move/decision, right?
When u say the word "call" in the sentence becomes easy to misunderstand u.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, folding to the xr is right.


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inceptioner
Joined: 23.05.2012

Originally posted by Afulibador
Inceptioner, u mean folding to the c/r is probably the right move/decision, right?
When u say the word "call" in the sentence becomes easy to misunderstand u.

Yes...


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Good, cause call is not right otf hahaha


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