IP VS PFR: 3Bet KQo, turn a straight draw

The flop hits him very well. What do you expect him to fold here? I would rather x back flop. And since he shows interest in the hand I'm checking back this turn.

I think your line would work great in single raised pots? When you 3bet you really don't have many hands that connect with the board. I think you are repping KK+ here. Villain has 88,TT,JJ in his calling range. I think it is better to check back turn. As played fold is good.

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
The flop hits him very well. What do you expect him to fold here? I would rather x back flop.

Same.

Preflop I'd fold KQo/AJo, and 3bet bluff suited hands instead (like A2s-A5s, KTs, QTs, T9s, 98s).

This flop hits his possible calling range (QQ-99,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,AQo+) really hard, almost none of his combos miss here, so we have to check a lot, probably our whole range (we don't really have strong hands on this board anyway, even QQ+ is not great).

Originally posted by LemOn36
FLOP
think the JT board is reasonably good for him so I want to make it larger than the usual 1/3 pot IP?

Btw, I don't get this one at all... Why is it standard to bet 1/3 pot, and if the board hits Villain hard, why do we want to bet even bigger?

On this flop I like to xc hands with good equity.

Yeah like
What at least a bit scientific guesstimating method can you arrive at preflop ranges?
And deciding between KQo AJo and SCs etc. And hands we can actually call

I guess doing it through guesstimating R for IP and then globally lowering the % as we get close to UTG would work

Check back flop seems okay here - I'll run this through Snowie, see what people with solvers think.

The sizings based on range distribution (the bigger your range advantage the smaller and wider you bet) just works well in terms of how he has to react and what you can bet etc. I don't fully understand that one either but it works in practice and solvers also bet a lot wider with smaller betsizings on boards good for our range, esp. IP.

Id fire the flop cbet still. Its a high end flop for us and why not continue to rep strength as per our 3b? If we hit our straight we want to play a big pot - the cbet might not be the most folded to, but i dont mind being called and seeing the pot swell, especially if im being slowplayed as a check behind the turn gets the villain into a gross spot if any scare cards hit.

If not this flop, what flops do you cbet IP with kq?

Bet - check - evaluate line for me here as default, without a defining read on the villain to support changing it.

would have checked this one OTF as well. Your hand doesn't always represent strong by c betting IMO.

Snowie would bet the flop and that's pretty clear in terms of EV, it cbets flop 64% of the time which is what I'd use IP more or less?

And is indifferent OTT with 1X PSB between check and bet (Im betting the turn with the intent of playing actively on tons of rivers - I don't think turn should be taken in isolation)

Although it does check 74% of cbet range there

I guess it turns out this spot won't matter much OTT with this hand

How about c-betting flop a little smaller with the intension of checking back turn on a blank? The idea is that you are likely to draw (two cards!) slightly cheaper than if you check flop. This should also fold out some small pocket pairs that beat us. Besides, I am not a huge fan of double barreling all my draws, and draws to nuts, especially if they can get there with an A hitting have excellent chances of getting paid off in full if they come in. (Even if double barreling has +EV, checking back turn may be better still.)

I see that Jaissica has similar (yet different) thoughts.

Originally posted by YohanN7
How about c-betting flop a little smaller with the intension of checking back turn on a blank? The idea is that you are likely to draw (two cards!) slightly cheaper than if you check flop.

Nope, this all the way. By cbetting you control the price of the two streets vs slowplaying regs here. If you x back flop youll have to fold some turns due to weird bet sizing.

Importantly as well you might end up paying a hand on the turn that the villain has turned into a bluff after you x back (Ax, for example). You both miss on the brick river and he takes the pot with ace high that he would fold on the flop.

Sorry, misread post again. (I read it first as if you blatantly disagreed:D)

Originally posted by YohanN7
How about c-betting flop a little smaller with the intension of checking back turn on a blank? The idea is that you are likely to draw (two cards!) slightly cheaper than if you check flop. This should also fold out some small pocket pairs that beat us. Besides, I am not a huge fan of double barreling all my draws, and draws to nuts, especially if they can get there with an A hitting have excellent chances of getting paid off in full if they come in. (Even if double barreling has +EV, checking back turn may be better still.)

I see that Jaissica has similar (yet different) thoughts.

I already defended this advantage cbetting has, and its valid here too.
We have a hand that taking cards for a cheap price is a great deal, and the cbet can do that. That said, the TURN I would check behind and use my cbet for drawing twice.