[Closed] Nl400 SH- KK vs river raise

no way I'm folding that, this could easily be a Q

Originally posted by lilprincess
no way I'm folding that, this could easily be a Q

insta snap call. what could he have thzat beats you? Quads? oh lol....if so: nh!

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TribunCaesar

good that's what i thought!

Originally posted by TribunCaesar

Originally posted by lilprincess
no way I'm folding that, this could easily be a Q

insta snap call. what could he have thzat beats you? Quads? oh lol....if so: nh!

hm, i dont see an insta snap call.

say he has KQ and knows that we 3 barrel here a Q and hands like KK, AA, 88. we dont often call JJ to his river shove besides we have some nice history. JJ, TT and 99 we oftentimes c/c on the river to give him a chance to bluff his busted draws, also we cant expect a call here from an 8.

i dont think he always shoves a Q here on the river cuz we are utg and 3 barrel on that board and we can really easily have KK and AA. it doesnt make much sence imo to shove a Q here.

call me weak and exploitable, but i find a lot of folds here on the river vs the right (!) opponents. maybe not with AA, cuz i expect KK sometimes (however, not too often i guess) in this spot which didn't want to 3bet utg on bu.

After thinking about it, I can see a point in folding against the right opponent. Mainly because a really good player wouldn't shove a Q here.

but!!!!!: "fold to flop cbet 56, fold to turn and river cbet- 0,
1.2k hands" ---- I am not folding against him. We don't have the right read to make me fold.

We can't assume anybody thinks through hands the same way we do. He might shove a Q to hope we fold the split. I can't fold here!

Can´t put opponent on hand, unless he has quads:D
with 5 af he should raise with flushdraw on the flop, so that is not that likely.
I also expect him to raise set on the flop, since you probably won´t give him any credit and stack off with KK there.
Getting that good pot odds I´d also call, but don´t expect to be ahead too many times.

he has 88, right?