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[6-max Zoom] AK fold in 9AJ 4 board

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 85 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 120.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
BB: 92.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG: 171.5 BB
MP: 101 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (CO): 523 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ K♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 9♥ A♦ J♥
Hero bets 5 BB, BTN raises to 13 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (33.5 BB, 2 players) 4♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 31 BB, fold

BTN wins 32.5 BB

My Thoughts: When i got raised on the flop, i had the feeling of a flush draw, so i called and was ready to give up in case a heart comes. Then comes the 4 of spades and villain bets big, i fold. With that bet i could see him holding AJ A9 or some kind of set, is that right to assume?

Now just to add to the discussion, this is why its so hard to make this kind of fold on NL2, take a look at this hand, a lot of times they are happy to go all-in holding A no kicker when a A is on the board, btw this guy snap called all my bets, like, instantly:

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 106 BB
BB: 79.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 431 BB
MP: 48.5 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 41.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8♦ 8♠

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) A♠ 8♣ 5♣
BB checks, Hero bets 6.5 BB, fold, BB calls 6.5 BB

Turn: (22.5 BB, 2 players) Q♥
BB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, BB calls 20 BB

River: (62.5 BB, 2 players) J♦
BB checks, Hero bets 60.5 BB, BB calls 50 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 8♦ 8♠ (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 69%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
BB shows 4♥ A♦ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 31%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 157 BB


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Your thought process looks quite good to me. Villain has 99,JJ,AJ,A9 easily in his range, even though you block Ax hands. He can still decide to raise and doublebarrel FDs but his turn bet size looks scary. You can call one street but I would consider folding turn too. The other hand you posted is a little bit different. There villain just likes to call, in your first hand villain seems to be tight and he shows aggression otf.


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Originally posted by la55i
The other hand you posted is a little bit different. There villain just likes to call, in your first hand villain seems to be tight and he shows aggression otf.

Yea actually i thought about that after posting, also its wrong to think that everyone does this, without a strong read. Thanks for the input.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, we will face 2p+ hands so folding turn is not a mistake. FDsor P+Dr have equity too.
In your second hand the villain is different?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I think this flop calls for a check. Helps to keep the pot small, protection isn't really an issue since he will fire all his draws so the street gets bet anyway, and he will most likely bet AQ/AT as well. We get some range protection too.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Great fold, xaves0.
This kind of line, imo, is more about made hands protecting against draws.
When he bets turn big, fold is the best option.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Now just to add to the discussion, this is why its so hard to make this kind of fold on NL2, take a look at this hand, a lot of times they are happy to go all-in holding A no kicker when a A is on the board, btw this guy snap called all my bets, like, instantly

Way different situation.
Insta calls almost always means hands that villain dont want to fold, but are not tricky. U did well barreling and putting him all in.
If he had a hand better than top pair, he would stop at least for a second and think "should I raise here?"


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Too early for timing tells. Fish will not stop for thinking as he is clicking buttons.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Even a fish stop to think if he should raise a monster. He is still a human being.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

This does not prove anything. Fish with a monster is clicking raise button without even breathing...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by Afulibador
Even a fish stop to think if he should raise a monster. He is still a human being.

Fish will also stop to think if he should bluff here, so you can not draw that conclusion imo. Instacalls could also mean that he has air and decided to bluff shove next street.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

"I got Aces"... is the next unthinking clicker of buttons. .. :)


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