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$1 Spin 3way - Preflop with A6s on button

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petterix
Joined: 03.09.2008
PokerStrategist

15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 28.5 BB
SB: 4.5 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 9)
BB: 17 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♦ A♦

Hero ???

Spoiler

Hero raises to 28.5 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 16 BB and is all-in

Flop: (34.5 BB, 2 players) J♠ 5♠ 4♥

Turn: (34.5 BB, 2 players) Q♥

River: (34.5 BB, 2 players) 5♣

BB shows 8♠ 8♦ (Two Pair, Eights and Fives)
(Pre 68%, Flop 84%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows 6♦ A♦ (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 32%, Flop 16%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 11.5 BB
BB wins 34.5 BB

What's the ideal open preflop? Limp, min-raise or shove?
I think we can forget the fold button here...?

Limp - We can call SB's shove if he wakes up. But we need to fold if over calls/shoves, losing only 1bb?
MR - Again we can call SB's shove but not if BB jams and we lose 2bb. Still we make BB to fold lots of hands.
Shove - I think it's unexploitable shove? Still we risk our game while we still have big stack. Shoving deep also increases the variance.

Not sure, maybe 2.5x to lure SB allin and try make BB to fold?


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011
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Folding suited ace on the button would ofcause be a mistake.
Personally I dont like shoving here either for effectively 17 BB, I would just min raise, and fold if BB for the first time reraises pre. Obv. calling a reshove from SB if we raise pre.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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Min raise/call against the SB and min raise/fold against the BB is the best option here for sure.
I expect the BB will shove with only better hands.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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petterix
Joined: 03.09.2008
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Sounds reasonable, it's a min raise then.
Thanks! :f_drink:


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009
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What's the ideal open preflop?

With 17bbs effective, I also recommend what guys said, and u should mini-raise/fold or call depending on villain. But, if it comes equal or below 15bbs, I think a range to open shove the buttom (without special reads) should be like 66-22, A7o-A2o, A6s-A2s.


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NTT123
Joined: 06.12.2006
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Easy push.
Yuo can min-raise/fold vs nits.
But i like push here, couse some players sitting with 40/0 stats, and than go AI with something like k8s, u will lose a lot of ev playing min-raise/fold against them.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007
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Always minraise this hand as default. There is no ICM in this format so there is no way to abuse stack distribution or should be no way. Whatever villains play for cEV or not is another question obviously.

Only 9 hands on BB but if he has played 50/0 so far I would give respect to him if he does 3bet. If he calls I would not mind to play from position with this hand.


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