NL50 Blog bonecore

Originally posted by bonecore
Thinking further about merging 3b point.. am not sure how correct is my thinking but here it goes
Excluding 4b, main factors would be ft3b and then ftcb

when we 3b
3bb to 5bb => FEQ=5/9.5=52.6% (100% value)
3bb to 7bb => FEQ=7/7+4.5=60.8% (50% value)
3bb to 9bb => FEQ=9/12=66.7%(0% value)

cbet in 3bp
if we bet 50%*pot => FEQ=0.50/1+0.50= 33% (100% value)
if we bet 70%*pot => FEQ=0.7/0.7+1= 41% (50% value)
if we bet 99%*pot => FEQ=1/1+1= 50% (0% value)

When to play GTO ranges?
Ft3b 61% +- 2% ............% value 50%
Ftcb 41% +- 3% ............. % value 50%

i hope u don't 3bet to 5bb as standard?
And getting 'true' stats in 3bet pots is kinda hard, because u need a big sample size.
Besides people play alot differently in 3bet pots OOP/IP on certain board textures.

I don't really understand your calculations tho, pot= 0% value and 1/2pot is 100% value?!

Originally posted by SvenBe
[Can you elaborate why GTO-ranges in your opinion mean 50% value,50% bluff?

if we have autoprofit with 3x 3bet then we can exploitiatively have 0% value
if we dont have autoprofit even with minmin 3b (3bb to 5bb) then we exploitatively have 100% value
so i suspect close to the middle would be Ft3b 58-63%?!? where we would have 50% value

i also used some gto 3b ranges and counted the combos and it is 50/50 value/bluff so i thought all gto ranges are the same
You encountered gto 3b ranges where it was a different valu/bluff ratio ???

Originally posted by Varune
I don't really understand your calculations tho, pot= 0% value and 1/2pot is 100% value?!

that was if he has high fold to cbet then we can 3b only junk if we want ...

ok, i'll let the gto to experts as it is not for me until i reach nl400
Meanwhile.. feeling more comfortable at 50nl so if i get a few more days of winnings then my confidence will be high.
Then i will work on increasing volume and that is that!

Where you saw gto 3bet ranges for 6max? Maybe in pokerstrategy strategy articles for pre flop?

Originally posted by dooleslovs
Where you saw gto 3bet ranges for 6max? Maybe in pokerstrategy strategy articles for pre flop?

initially i stumbled upon w34z3l's ranges (SB 3b ranges)
i dont use that anymore because i use somewhat merged 3b range from SB
I settled up with gto ranges from Mastering 3b pots by Gordon, but modified open raising ranges that i learned from oblioo.
Then BrokeSoBroke taught me dynamic open raising ranges which felt really good ... and now working on dynamic cc & 3b ranges...

even with dynamic ranges i still watch the gto ones, at least to compare and see how far should i go

Before i moved up at 50nl , i had a great month EV wise at nl25... and i remember i was playing 2k hands every day, and playing good. Was playing the GTO ranges and did not look for autoprofit spots preflop to postflop... just took the autoprofit spots if i wake up in one.

At 50nl it happened that i do not wake up in enough autoprofit spots ... so i learned more tricks now...
Another thing i learned a bit is to to make adjustments to the preflop ranges!
Now i am overthinking too much , i think.
I should just start putting more volume because now i know more tricks and can use them !

Just received my new poker glasses !
They have a slight magnifying lenses.. i think !?! or its and illusion and they just move the image a bit upward ?!?
Lenses are slightly yellow which makes the contrast a bit higher and easier on the eye.
Will need to take care of them to not scratch or something!

Hi bonecore. GL with NL50 and looking forward to reading how you get on. Hoping to be moving up from NL25 to 50 this year if all goes well.
Regards

Matt

Originally posted by metalmonkey80
Hi bonecore. GL with NL50 and looking forward to reading how you get on. Hoping to be moving up from NL25 to 50 this year if all goes well.

Thanks Matt,
I will get to nl100 by June!
Now it is the more critical part because i am working on dynamic preflop ranges and it takes some time to master it!
After i beat nl50 , then nl100 is already beat because i will play faster preflop and have more time for postflop.

Merged 3betting ranges? Someone's been watching some DC vids

I tried this out once and it gets you into some VERY tricky situations. Sending you a friend request though (just shooting nl50 myself)

@DrDunne
Hello, actually i'm gonna ask my coach to see what he thinks about my 3b merged ranges...
Some guys 3b QTo on the bottom of value 3b range ... and i dont ... so i might want to adjust my merged 3b ranges... will look into it soon

@hya3na
I would like to ask you how to do this please :
"-make equilab river decision excersices (call/fold)"
eg1 eg2 eg3

Originally posted by DrDunne
Merged 3betting ranges? Someone's been watching some DC vids

I tried this out once and it gets you into some VERY tricky situations. Sending you a friend request though (just shooting nl50 myself)

Not only there http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10167797&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Originally posted by AlvisR

Originally posted by DrDunne
Merged 3betting ranges? Someone's been watching some DC vids

I tried this out once and it gets you into some VERY tricky situations. Sending you a friend request though (just shooting nl50 myself)

Not only there http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10167797&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Interesting read for sure Thanks for the link

This could have been my first losing month, but gasping for air in final day of the month managed to end the month break even!
Totally redesigned my game while not losing! (however VOLUME suffered because of this)

Hand #1
Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
MP: $50.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 3.3, Hands: 815
CO: $52.06 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 25, 3B: 9, AF: 1.3, Hands: 155
BTN: $78.46 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 9, AF: 3.3, Hands: 1908
SB: $50.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.2, Hands: 3879
Hero (BB): $50.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.6, Hands: 358909
UTG: $82.20 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2.5, Hands: 3092

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K 9
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) A 5 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero raises to $9, MP folds, BTN calls $6

Turn: ($22.75) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $14.00, BTN calls $14

River: ($50.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $25.50, BTN calls $25.50

Final Pot: $101.75
BTN shows A Q
Hero shows K 9
Hero wins $99.25
(Rake: $2.50)

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Hand #2
Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
SB: $50.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 2839
BB: $22.64 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9
UTG: $60.40 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.4, Hands: 454
Hero (MP): $73.31 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.6, Hands: 358909
CO: $64.74 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 21, 3B: 12, AF: 3.4, Hands: 2614
BTN: $52.36 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 25, 3B: 9, AF: 1.3, Hands: 155

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with 4 4
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 4 K 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.75) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.50, Hero raises to $10, BTN calls $5.50

River: ($28.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $13.75, BTN calls $13.75

Final Pot: $56.25
Hero shows 4 4
BTN mucks 5 5
Hero wins $53.75
(Rake: $2.50)

Nice hands! Games at NL50 look pretty tough compared to what I remember them being like 6-7 years ago.

Originally posted by zolaman
Nice hands! Games at NL50 look pretty tough compared to what I remember them being like 6-7 years ago.

playing tight still wins it, of course we never take the easy way because we want to learn as much as possible

as played what is your default play on a blank turn in h1?

Originally posted by Tinsley15
as played what is your default play on a blank turn in h1?

would bet smaller to have a bigger ship on river (more fold equity)
i expect him to raise turn with a set because he has a high flop raise (14%) and board is drawy,
also he has a big fold to river bet and nut FD is not in the bottom of my bluffing range so bet

Go Bonecore!