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KJ 3bet pot monster draw

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sergii1984
Joined: 23.04.2011

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $4.45 (89 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $1.22 (24.4 bb)
CO: $6.66 (133.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.58 (111.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, SB folds, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.33

Flop: ($0.92) Q 6 T (2 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.92) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($3.92) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero?????

BB= reg

21/15 Call open 13
3bet 7,4
resteal 10

WTSD 24
WWSF 52
W$SD 50
cbet F/T in 3bet pots 70/50
H 267

how you playing draws in 3bet pots after Blind war?

maybee better raising flop here ?- we have around 36%equity against TPTK othwerwise BB range here is weak (blindwar) and many times we win on the flop

s after blind war given this Bb has here


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

I prefer calling flop and turn because I don't see villain cbetting on this flop with air often because it hits our range better than his + we have tons of hands that will call his cbets.

So he does not have that much air in his range --> don't raise.

Could we shove river repping the flush when he checks otr? Imo villain rarely has the flush when he checks on the river so we will get folds often. Also we don't have that much showdown value.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Do the math before you shove. (A gentler bet may have much better EV.)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I like the way you played this. OTR I would bluff.


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

would bet small otr


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by Tinsley15
would bet small otr

Why small? Idea is that he folds his AQ.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I can make a bet here OTR.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by Tinsley15
would bet small otr

Why small? Idea is that he folds his AQ.

You will get called by flushes. No need to make it bigger.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by Tinsley15
would bet small otr

Why small? Idea is that he folds his AQ.

You will get called by flushes. No need to make it bigger.

What flush is going to check OTR?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Who knows? Weak flushes...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Weak flushes might yes. But would those doublebarrel postflop? Well, it is possible. But if we try to bluff shouldn't we make it that big villain would be able to fold something.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Who knows. I would like to see his river aggression stat .


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I doubt we get very reliable in 267 hands.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Nevertheless. Just to show tendency.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by la55i
Weak flushes might yes. But would those doublebarrel postflop? Well, it is possible. But if we try to bluff shouldn't we make it that big villain would be able to fold something.

The obvious golden rule of bluffing is to bet enough to get the job done, but not much more than that. That extra 50-100% (or whatever) may not have the desired effect in terms of extra folds. It just might eat up all +EV. Not saying shoving is blatantly wrong, just saying maximizing folds is not the objective.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Totally agree. Why pay a stack when a chunk of it will do the same...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yes I know. I wasn't going to bet huge but a bit bigger than small. If small is around 1/4 - 1/3 I think it might be a bit too small to fold out Qx for example.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

35-40% max.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I can agree with 40%.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You can get on the bigger side of this range but bigger seems off.


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