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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Originally posted by la55i

Okay then. 4bet or fold is good. We could flip a coin and decide.

Or we can 4bet JJ combos with a diamond and fold rest :f_wink:


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sebralane
Joined: 18.09.2009

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i

Okay then. 4bet or fold is good. We could flip a coin and decide.

Or we can 4bet JJ combos with a diamond and fold rest :f_wink:
Or I could do it when there are 2 black or 2 red jacks, then I know it´s time to 4bet


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

No,no. It is a matter of personal style, our percieved aggression/passivenes...


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by sebralane

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i

Okay then. 4bet or fold is good. We could flip a coin and decide.

Or we can 4bet JJ combos with a diamond and fold rest :f_wink:
Or I could do it when there are 2 black or 2 red jacks, then I know it´s time to 4bet

It is not necessary to make it that detailed. If you feel comfortable putting pressure and you know how to play postflop - 4b. If you are not comfortable or you are not confident in your postflop play - fold.


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Originally posted by nitrol

It is not necessary to make it that detailed. If you feel comfortable putting pressure and you know how to play postflop - 4b. If you are not comfortable or you are not confident in your postflop play - fold.

I was just referring to the coin flip. But I agree with what you said.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

O, Sorry, I didn't get it... I felt it was too detailed.. :)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i

Okay then. 4bet or fold is good. We could flip a coin and decide.

Or we can 4bet JJ combos with a diamond and fold rest :f_wink:

Or we can watch the clock and when the seconds start with odd number we 4bet and with even we fold :)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by sebralane

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i

Okay then. 4bet or fold is good. We could flip a coin and decide.

Or we can 4bet JJ combos with a diamond and fold rest :f_wink:
Or I could do it when there are 2 black or 2 red jacks, then I know it´s time to 4bet

Could work too :)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i

Okay then. 4bet or fold is good. We could flip a coin and decide.

Or we can 4bet JJ combos with a diamond and fold rest :f_wink:

Or we can watch the clock and when the seconds start with odd number we 4bet and with even we fold :)
I, I see my ideas here...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by marsa08

Originally posted by la55i

Okay then. 4bet or fold is good. We could flip a coin and decide.

Or we can 4bet JJ combos with a diamond and fold rest :f_wink:

Or we can watch the clock and when the seconds start with odd number we 4bet and with even we fold :)
I, I see my ideas here...

Yes you do :f_biggrin: I liked that idea.. Easier than using random number generator. Thanks for the tip.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You are welcome. Thanks Dan Harrington. :)


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We are risking 18.5 for 13 in this spot. So for break even they have to fold in 58.7%. Because of the rake it will be higher then that. I would give CO a 25% openraise range and maybe QQ+,AK for going AI. So he will fold 90% of the time. And we don't know anything about SB but I assume he would go AI with the same range (maybe JJ as well, and with that his range will be 3%). If i am not mistaken he has to 3bet more than 7% against SB. Which i think will most likely to happen. So imo the cold4bet wasn't that bed. Against some regs it can be -EV, and against other it can be -EV.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

+EV You mean.


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Sry i am a little bit tired after sundays fishy sessions :f_biggrin:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Don't worry, it is not too misunderstood.
4b is reasonable.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by horvathr492
We are risking 18.5 for 13 in this spot. So for break even they have to fold in 58.7%.

You got the correct % but I'm not sure how. We are indeed risking 18.5 but it is to win 13+18,5=31,5.
Maybe you know this but left it out of your post. Just wanted to make sure :)


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