set turn play.

Originally posted by la55i
22-TT sometimes JJ (might squeeze but not mandatory).
AQs-ATs, A2s-A5s (might squeeze but not mandatory), A6s-A9s
KJs-K7s
QJs-Q9s
JTs-J8s
some suited connectors.

Should be realistic flatting range vs 2 IP. He shouldn't have so many off-suit hands and that KhTx was an example. He could still have KQo or something, maybe.

Something like that.

Off suit hands will squeeze more.
If he has that many suited hands our turn bet is not so good.

Correct.

Villain is calling heroes bet while there are 2 players still to go. What part of his calling range will continue OTF? Imo, villain would call mainly with drawing hands so I believe that passive line is better in this spot. x/f line is to nitty and bet/fold w 10 outs to improve doesn't sound good either, I wouldn't feel very good after folding this :f_biggrin:.
OTR we could again x/c if unimprove w decent bet, if he shove it I don't mind mucking it.

That's my 2 cents.

srna10 FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Hmmm it is still 3vs2
I think we have to conclude that there are many ok lines. Both aggressive and passive line has its pros and cons.
I usually go with the more aggressive line but it is fine to go with the passive one too. At least it starts to look like it.

Originally posted by nitrol
srna10 FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Ty sir

I think we have to conclude that there are many ok lines. Both aggressive and passive line has its pros and cons.
I usually go with the more aggressive line but it is fine to go with the passive one too. At least it starts to look like it.

Good discussion is good for learning, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong.

That is true. This discussion has been very difficult ♦ I think we have learned something but we still haven't reached a "best line" that makes everyone happy. Maybe there is no best line then?

Originally posted by la55i
Hmmm it is still 3vs2
I think we have to conclude that there are many ok lines. Both aggressive and passive line has its pros and cons.
I usually go with the more aggressive line but it is fine to go with the passive one too. At least it starts to look like it.

Well I like that srna10 sees what I mean too. Just look at the passive play as a possibility and do not bet\fold hands with good equity.

Originally posted by la55i
That is true. This discussion has been very difficult ♦ I think we have learned something but we still haven't reached a "best line" that makes everyone happy. Maybe there is no best line then?

There is best line which would be line that brings you money. It doesn't matter if is it aggressive or passive, try both lines and see which one is line.