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NL5 10Ks flop call

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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $7.83
SB: $6.21 (VPIP: 12.24, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 12.00, Hands: 49)
BB: $5.00 (VPIP: 16.77, PFR: 8.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 159)
UTG: $5.00 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 78)
UTG+1: $7.52 (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: $5.16 (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 21)
MP+1: $14.11 (VPIP: 13.25, PFR: 12.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
MP+2: $10.04 (VPIP: 9.95, PFR: 8.80, 3Bet Preflop: 1.18, Hands: 436)
CO: $5.52 (VPIP: 25.35, PFR: 23.94, 3Bet Preflop: 15.69, Hands: 143)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T♦ K♦

UTG raises to $0.17, UTG+1 calls $0.17, MP calls $0.17, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.17, SB calls $0.15, fold

Flop: ($0.90, 5 players) 7♦ 4♣ T♣
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.60, fold, Hero calls $0.60, fold, fold

Turn: ($2.10, 2 players) 9♠
UTG+1 bets $1.20, fold

UTG+1 wins $2.01

So first off, is this alright to call pre? Pretty nice hand, i could 3b but prefer to flat an flop a hand IP multi-way.
When we flop TP we have to call one, or at least thats what i thought. Is this the correct play?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I would 3bet here. Your hand is not strong enough mw and should be used as a bluff/squeeze IMO.
As played, call 1 street and indeed fold OTT


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We cannot call as SB is active and can squeeze.
Postflop is ok.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

Pre is totally fine. KTs can flop very strong multiway, and having position makes it easy to win money. Squeezing is an option, but really depends on the openraiser and the coldcallers' tendencies. It feels like burning money when they call a lot.

Postflop I would call the turn as well. The half pot doesn't look like a strong hand, there are still some draws possible and also stuff you beat (QTs, JTs). But for the river I would probably fold to a reasonable size


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Totally agree with nitrol - you can't call preflop bcs of possibility of sq from SB. So, just fold or squeeze. As played on postflop - correctly.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by MisterSnS
Pre is totally fine. KTs can flop very strong multiway, and having position makes it easy to win money. Squeezing is an option, but really depends on the openraiser and the coldcallers' tendencies. It feels like burning money when they call a lot.

Postflop I would call the turn as well. The half pot doesn't look like a strong hand, there are still some draws possible and also stuff you beat (QTs, JTs). But for the river I would probably fold to a reasonable size

If the players on the blinds are passive preflop, I like the call too, but look at SB...


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

There shouldn't even be a debate. It is a call goddammit. Anyone proclaiming that suited connectory kind of hands do not like cheap MW pots in position is just plain wrong or can't play the hand properly. The blinds would be brain-dead to squeeze very much vs a raise and three callers. If they do squeeze - well, you stand to lose a few bb (3.4 bb to be exact). So what? You are 150bb deep with UTG+1 and the others are full stacked. It is a dream scenario.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I will squeeze on SB here.


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5trang3
Joined: 24.05.2016

I think calling and just playing post is fine with K10 IP
I think you can also call the turn as well and re-valuate on the river.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by tiltmonk
Totally agree with nitrol - you can't call preflop bcs of possibility of sq from SB. So, just fold or squeeze. As played on postflop - correctly.

Originally posted by nitrol
I will squeeze on SB here.

With which range?

I am calling on the button (with the intention of folding to a squeeze) even if there is a 50% chance that there will be a squeeze from one of the blinds. Did you notice that you are up against a UTG full-ring opening range and three callers, among them UTG + 1 whose position is less than ideal? You can squeeze AI with 30 bb in a tournament (from either the blinds or the button). That would be a good play.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

On SB I am squeezing wide.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I know, but how much? More than you open for 2 bb on the button?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Why not that big?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Why not answer the question instead of simply increasing your post count?

The question is: "With which range do you squeeze in the given scenario from the SB provided that hero calls?" 10%? 25%? 50%? 100%?

250%?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Why not answering my question?
Let's say around 50


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008
StruxXx
Joined: 18.12.2015

I dont know why are you even debating about SB's squeeze potential. He has only 49 HH! That's nothing! That's rubbish! Completely invalid statistical information on SB that can only lead you to wrong assumptions! To have a valid information about 3bet you need to have AT LEAST 300-400+ HH on some player (and for TOTSQ even higher).
Do not look on 3bet stats AT ALL on 14/13 players unless you have a decent amount of HH!

Calling is correct play, while folding OTT is fine as well. I doubt he's betting anything that we beat.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

its well played


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