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4$ AK in 3bet pot deep stacked

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InezMuchez
Joined: 10.11.2011

Poker Stars, $4 Buy-in (25/50 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players

SB: 4,177 (83.5 bb)
BB: 5,109 (102.2 bb)
UTG+1: 2,464 (49.3 bb)
UTG+2: 3,353 (67.1 bb)
MP1: 2,982 (59.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): 3,202 (64 bb)
MP3: 3,636 (72.7 bb)
CO: 2,219 (44.4 bb)
BTN: 2,481 (49.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A♣: K♦:
3 folds, Hero raises to 112, MP3 raises to 300, 4 folds, Hero calls 188

Flop: (729) 7♥: J♦: 3♥: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 277, Hero calls 277

Turn: (1,283) K♥: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

River: (1,283) 9♣: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 615, Hero calls 615

Hello everyone!

My opponent plays 17/12 with 5,9 3bet over 155 hands.

First of all, do you think a 4b/broke is necessary? I would rather do that from 35-40bb stacks.

My opponent doesn't 3bet a lot, a gave him a range like this:

JJ+,AKs,KJs,AdTd,AsTs,AcTc,AKo,AJo

It's pretty much a coinflip pre, if this range is appropriate.

If he bets all his hands on the flop, I have about the odds to call, but I don't think it's compulsory.

As played, I didn't see much hands I could valuebet against, maybe queens, but thats pretty much it.

What are your thoughts on this one?


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

I would most likely 4bet here, flatting is okay but then we are OOP and we are going to miss the flop about 60% of the time therefore giving the villain an advantage over us. As played, against such tight player calling the flop is a huge mistake unless you have info that he is going to give up on later streets. Players who have 6% 3bet is very low and never bluff when they 3bet (hence why I prefer 4bet/get it in line). Check/call might make sense if you have AhKx but still you are check calling the flop to miss the turn about 80% of the time which an ideal strategy to burn chips. Therefore, just fold flop and move on to the next one.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Interesting 3bet range you gave him. I expect 99-TT is more like in his 3bet range than a hand like KJ. So It’s more likely 99+ and AJs+ and AQ+ or so. So against this range you flipping pre-flop, but I expect you have still some fold equity pre-flop and I would go for a 4bet to approximately 800 and her-evaluate on further action.

As played I would give up the flop the flop as well. On the river it will be close, because you only beat a hand like QQ here.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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InezMuchez
Joined: 10.11.2011

But why would be 3bet 99, TT? Aren't those simply calling hands?

So I've calculated a little bit. If he 3bets 99+,AJs+,AQo+, and ships it only with JJ+,AKs,AKo, then he will only continue in 45% after 3betting.

9*6+75= 129 (antes+blinds)
112->300->710 (let's say I 4bet to 710)

598/(129+300+710)= 52,5% (amount I have to put in to 4bet/amount I can win) (So since he folds 55% it's profitable to 4bet)

3090 (My chips remaining after my OR)
3202*2+129=6533 (Pot when we move AI)
0,45*6533*0,4-3090= -1914,06 (EV of push)

0,55*1139=626,45 (EV of 4bet)

So the way i've calculated, it's minus EV to go broke against this player. What factors did I miss out, how do see this situation?

I'm not sure how close we were to the money, so this is only ChipEV.


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010

Buy [Edited by SDK1987] and do the calculations there. The best EV calculator out there, every time I had done calcs for similar cases, it has always shown a profit.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Hello Rihard4a

Beware that it isn’t allowed by https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=2103409#post2103409 to make promotion for tools that you need to buy for and we don’t support it. That’s why I have edited your post.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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