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PokerStars 0,50$ Fullring Turbo, 3-Bet with TT

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Mooharius
Joined: 10.01.2007

Hi everyone,

after reviewing this hand I do not like my 3-Bet at all. I think the stacks are still big enough to call here and look what the flop brings. Nevertheless I did raise. So, as played would you call his 4-Bet (since I get 2.54:1) or fold (if I presume that my bubble factor is around 1.3 I have only odds of ~1,95:1 and would need ~34% equity)? If he 4-Bets with JJ+, AK I have an equity of almost 34%, so it seems to be close.

PokerStars - $0.44+$0.06|25/50 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 1,330
BB: 1,475 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
UTG: 1,462 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
UTG+1: 3,143 (VPIP: 64.29, PFR: 35.71, 3Bet Preflop: 42.86, Hands: 14)
MP: 2,920 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 1,805 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
BTN: 1,365 (VPIP: 15.47, PFR: 14.46, 3Bet Preflop: 4.96, Hands: 899)

Hero posts SB 25, BB posts BB 50

Pre Flop: (pot: 75) Hero has T♥ T♦

fold, UTG+1 calls 50, MP raises to 200, fold, fold, Hero raises to 550, fold, fold, MP raises to 1,750, ???


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would go for a push right away, because if you 3bet you invest more than 1/3 of your remaining stack and you need to call a 4bet shove anyway.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Shin1019
Joined: 06.07.2016

I also think 4-bet shoving is standard play as you don't have position.
As played, I have to sigh call his 4-bet shoving unless I have enough information of his 4bet or 3bet range.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

readless I 3bet shove here, BUT he has 4X it, was this his normal raise size? If he normally raised less I think I just call and see what the flop brings and go from there, if there are overcards OTF and he continues to bet you can fold and still have over 20BB


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Shin1019
Joined: 06.07.2016

Oh, I did not see there was a limper.

Then, I think calling can be an option although you are OOP.
If I call preflop, I will check call one time and fold postflop on over cards unless the overcard is Jack or C-bet sizing is very small.

And, 4 bet shoving is I think still profitable since AK, AQ has 16 combos each and a pair has 6 combos each.

I am not sure which line to take here there are pros and cons.

As for sizing, I think 4x here is standard
When there is a limper, standard 3bet sizing is...

1 limper -> 4x
2 limpers -> 5x
3 limpers -> 6x


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

That is true about sizing although I often find its usually the 25/50 level when people stop 3X and go to around 2.5X, but he may be a permament 3X regardless of blinds & stack sizes etc


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Mooharius
Joined: 10.01.2007

He only openraised one hand before and it was 4x. So it may be that he raises 4x with smaller blinds and 3x +1 for each limper with bigger blinds. But thats just a guess.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

If thats his standard raise then I think I just 3bet shove for 26BB


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