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MrPinkii
Joined: 26.02.2009

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 25.8 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
SB: 95 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 15.22, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 47)
Hero (UTG): 103.8 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 95.4 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♠ K♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 22 BB, MP calls 13 BB

Flop: (45.4 BB, 2 players) T♦ 9♦ Q♥
Hero bets 18 BB, MP raises to 36 BB, fold,

Easy shove against AA, JJ, KdKh, QdQs, QdQc, QsQc, ThTs, ThTc, TsTc, 9h9s, 9h9c, 9s9c, AdQd, AsQs, AcQc? Or fold? Villain is unknown.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think you can shove here. I wouldn't give all AA for him since he should shove those pre. Also I'm not sure he calls 99 vs 4bet or raises all JJ. You still have around 50% equity and since you have invested that much already shove should be fine.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We cannot shove here.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I like the fold. Maybe we can call 1 street, but I think fold is not bad at all. I´m definitelly not shoving.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

According to my math we must have 29.7% equity for our shove to be break even. So let's give villain a range and stop guessing what to do:

MP2 37.38% 33.99% 3.39% KsKc
MP3 62.62% 59.23% 3.39% QQ, TT, AdAh, AdAs, AdAc, KdKh, JdJh, JdJs, 9d9h, 9d9s, 9d9c, AdKd, AdQd, AsQs

Here villain has all QQ and TT, 3 combos of AA and 99, 2 combos of badly played JJ, also AKdd and AQdd+AQhh because he might overplay some TPTK sometimes? In this situation shove would be clearly profitable.

If we take away his JJ and AQhh we get only 27.8% which is a little bit less than we should have.

It all comes down to what villains range is. Even one combo of weaker hand than ours makes a big difference here. Shove cannot be terribly wrong, although folding is always safer :)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Still going for the variation spin is not my choice.


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