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piR
piR
Joined: 31.08.2008

Hello guys,
A hand I played that made me wonder what to do river ? Had no clue at the time (and still not sure about my play here).
What do you think ? sorry not much info about vilains.

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $4.85
SB: $5.00
BB: $5.68
UTG: $6.40
Hero (MP): $5.27
CO: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with J♥ A♥
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) 4♠ 4♥ K♠ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.80) Q♥ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.80) 2♥ (4 players)
SB bets $0.86, BB raises to $1.72, Hero raises to $4.82 all in, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $3.10

Spoiler

Final Pot: $12.30
BB shows 4d Kh (a full house, Fours full of Kings)
Hero shows Jh Ah (a flush, Ace high)
BB wins $11.79
(Rake: $0.51)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I wouldn’t Cbet into 3 players on the flop on a pretty wet board, because I don’t think you let them fold often and you have still some backdoor draws here as well.

As played the river is indeed tricky with a bet and min-raise in front of you. I expect it’s likely the BB has a full house or something and I don’t expect you get action of worse with shoving. So I would most likely call only and if you have good reads on him you could even fold here.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

On this flop you might have decent fold equity but I still would just check call.

OTR I usually don't call raises because when ppl at this limit raise river they always have a strong hand. In this case however they might have weaker flush than you, so calling would be ok. I usually don't go broke there if I don't have the nuts. Board is paired and I think you should just call BB's raise, not shove on top.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

What's with the cbet in 4 way?


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Flop: I wound not cbet mw with backdoors, :spade::spade:x hands would be ok to cbet here, might even x/c them because of 4 players.

river: if the other players are calling station fish then I would shove, otherwise just call his raise.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by marsa08
river: if the other players are calling station fish then I would shove, otherwise just call his raise.

Noo, if he is a calling station he will not raise river in the firs place if he doesn't have nuts. If he is aggro fish we can shove because he can raise with weaker hands or as a pure bluff.


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piR
piR
Joined: 31.08.2008

I shove here because I was expecting to be call with worst flush in this spot. But then the only question imo is : would that ppl raise with a weaker flush ? I dont have that much info on villain but I suppose the calling station profile is more present at the limit than the aggro kind. so I suppose shove was not the best play there.

Agreed cbet 4way was probably not the best option however ppl at this limit call with so much trash hand that on 44K it seemed not that bad at the moment ^^


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

Originally posted by SDK1987
I wouldn’t Cbet into 3 players on the flop on a pretty wet board, because I don’t think you let them fold often and you have still some backdoor draws here as well.

As played the river is indeed tricky with a bet and min-raise in front of you. I expect it’s likely the BB has a full house or something and I don’t expect you get action of worse with shoving. So I would most likely call only and if you have good reads on him you could even fold here.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Wet board??????


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BelligerentBird
Joined: 08.08.2016

I think that fold on the river is the best decision here - not much weaker hands would raise river in MW pot. But I would probably just call. Shove is definitely a mistake.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Don´t cbet OTF. Don´t 3 bet with flush when board is paired, just call.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

We shouldn't Cbet flop for starters indeed. If it was a x / x / x line, we could have easily made a x/c OTR as your hand is a good enough bluffcatcher for a paired board.


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