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$0.50 / 9m / 1v1 / 89o

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ggeshov
Joined: 25.12.2010

Hi all!

Preflop I limp with 89o and after villain min-raised I just decide to call and see the flop because of the good pot odds.

OTF villain made a cbet of just 1bb so again I decided to call because of the good pot odds.

OTT villain bets 1bb again so now I decide to raise for value since villain is not showing any real strength so far. To my surprise he re-raised almost x2 and now I am beginning to think that he probably has an overpair. Nevertheless I decided to call his re-raise because I was feeling now pot committed, the odds were about 5.5:1 and probably there was still some chance that I have him beaten. I decided to just call instead of shoving since if he has an overpair he is going to call anyway and if he is bluffing he will continue to bluff on the river.

Do you think the hand was played correctly?

Cheers!

Poker Stars $0.44+$0.06 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 2 players
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BB: t7860 M = 12.09
Hero (BTN/SB): t5640 M = 8.68

Pre Flop: (t650) Hero is BTN/SB with 8♠ 9♥
Hero calls t200, BB raises to t800, Hero calls t400

Flop: (t1650) 4♦ 7♣ 4♥ (2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero calls t400

Turn: (t2450) 8♣ (2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero raises to t1552, BB raises to t2704, Hero calls t1152

River: (t7858) 5♦ (2 players)
BB bets t3931 all in, Hero calls t1711 all in


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

Pre I like the limp, whether you call the raise is player dependant, had he been raising much or checking behind your limps? Had he folded to your BTN raises?

OTF - you can just fold here, unless you have a plan to bluff him on later streets as 9 high is unlikely to be best right now
OTT I just call and get to showdown cheaply, when he raises I dont think you ever have the best hand, I think he has an overpair, 44, 77, 88 and against that range you are crushed


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ggeshov
Joined: 25.12.2010

Hi slyppyjim!

Thanks for the reply!

Prior to this hand we played about 10-12 hands and this is the first time I limped, so didnt have info how would he react to a limp.

He was both calling and folding to my raises. I wouldnt say he was too tight or loose.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

Once I've limped I personally would have to call the small raise, but that may well be a losing play long term because although you are IP it really isnt a great hand at all and even if you catch TP, as you do, you are rarely ahead


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by slippyjim
Once I've limped I personally would have to call the small raise, but that may well be a losing play long term because although you are IP it really isnt a great hand at all and even if you catch TP, as you do, you are rarely ahead

+1, but now he’s min betting I would most likely go for it on the turn. Now is his min 3bet very suspicious and I would most likely fold here, because there aren’t many good river cards and you are committed as well if you call and you are always beat I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

In my experience at the micros in min bet means one of 2 things, very very weak or very very strong, so yeah once he min bets/raise he must have at least an overpair, probably a set or FH.

SDK - OTT do you call and go for cheap showdown or raise/fold?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would raise the turn as well for value against his weak hands and potential draws as well and fold on his suspicious 3bet, because we beat nothing what he will play like this I think.


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nutural
Joined: 21.09.2011

:f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly: My 2-fishy-cents :f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly: :

I think sometimes we are leveling/trapping ourselves with this "it's just 1 bb bet or mraise".
In micros, I translate very differently the villain's line based on such effective stack or even better lower M :
- in this case it seems to me a quite strong line - inducing
- in the case of higher M either drawing or checking our "resistance".

That said,
PRE : for balance and checking reasons I agree with Limp/Call
OTF : unless ridiculously high CBet from villain Fold - not much to wait for on this flop, not even bluff catcher
OTT : fair move, but probably fold or raise/fold - appears too strong of a line.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

Originally posted by nutural
I think sometimes we are leveling/trapping ourselves with this "it's just 1 bb bet or mraise".
- in this case it seems to me a quite strong line - inducing

That is a good point about the "its only 1BB", if your hand is crap, it usually stays crap after the flop

At the micros I wouldnt say that a small raise is always inducing, he could easily just have an Ax hand, I would say a min 3bet is more likely to be inducing

But yeah, good points:f_thumbsup:


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Preflop limp is good default line and without specific trap reads calling versus minraise is mandatory. If villain is on tight side minraise is fine as well preflop.

Flop is questionable. You do get turn card that clearly improves your hand roughly 28% of time. Meaning top pair or open ended straight draw. But sometimes top pair is not good and even if you get open ended draw you might not have opportunity to realize equity from it.

In turn I would tend to call again to allow him to bluff and have some pot control if he happens to be trapping. In general if you decide to raise you have to be ready to stack off. Now its arguable when he makes such min3bet line on turn that is likely to be really value heavy.


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