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[Closed] $6.50, calling shorty's shove with 86s

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LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007
BlackMember

No Limit Holdem Tournament
$6.00+$0.50
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (2280)
UTG+1 (2455)
CO (500)
BTN (2370)
SB (4695)
Hero (BB) (1200)

Blinds: 75/150

Pre-flop: (225, 6 players) Hero is BB 6♣ 8♣
2 folds, CO goes all-in 500, 2 folds, Hero folds

Final Pot: 375

CO wins 725 ( won +225 )

I was a bit surprised running this on sng wiz and seeing I should push here as long as the shortstack is shoving at least 12% (this particular player is shoving like 35% here I think, but that's not my point). My point is, given my not too good stack, am I not risking too much calling this with 86s? I understand my stack demands a move, but if I have to push cards that aren't that good I'd like having some fold equity as well...


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viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008
Oldschool Grinder

I'm easily folding against unknown, matter of fact there are only like 3-4 regulars on my tables I have a good enough read on to call here (and I doubt them pushing that loose into me).

Your odds are good, but calling and loosing makes you loose a lot of FE in an important stage. Pushing >> calling, so I fold this vs unknown.


Originally posted by viewer88
I'm easily folding against unknown, matter of fact there are only like 3-4 regulars on my tables I have a good enough read on to call here (and I doubt them pushing that loose into me).

Your odds are good, but calling and loosing makes you loose a lot of FE in an important stage. Pushing >> calling, so I fold this vs unknown.

I agree, he may be desperate and just waiting for a chance to be first in to shove,
but with myself being so low in chips, I would need better to call.

66+, ATos+ KQos+ A6s+


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
Elite Grinder

Hi all,

I would call this. If we do call and lose we will lose a chunk of FE but still have a bit (625 or just over 4BB after the SB passes us). So I make the odds-call.


LgWz Topic starter
LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007
BlackMember

Would this be an example of gigabet's dilemma? I take SB is alone in the highest group of stack sizes, then the second group has UTG, UTG+1 and BTN, while I am group 3 and shortstack is a 4th group. If I call and win, I reach the 2nd group, while if I call and lose, CO joins my group, but my stack size compared to the 2 higher groups doesn't get THAT worse than it already is.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008
Oldschool Grinder

350 to call is more then 1/4th of hero's stack, so the gigabet dilemma doesn't really apply here.
Infact it rarely applies on low stakes sng's (<50$ ? not sure myself, haven't reached that buy-in lvl), perhaps it's more usefull in MTT's.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
Elite Grinder

It's not a gigabet dilemma because with or without these 500 chips we still do not have anywhere near as many chips as the 4th place player.


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