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JJ not sure how I should have played it.

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monty90
Joined: 30.10.2008

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.80 (116 bb)
BB: $2.50 (50 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.29 (205.8 bb)
CO: $6.82 (136.4 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J♥: J♠:
UTG raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, 4 folds, UTG raises to $1, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.07) 8♥: 3♣: 4♣: (2 players)
UTG bets $1.40, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$2.07 pot ($0.09 rake)
Final Board: 8♥: 3♣: 4♣:
UTG mucked and won $1.98 ($0.98 net)
Hero mucked J♥: J♠: and lost (-$1 net)

not much info on the UTG player. The bet on the flop now I think about it makes me wonder if he has AK due to the sizing. do you think it was played correctly?


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corsc
Joined: 03.11.2009

JJ is not a hand I am "set mining with". Therefore if I am calling pre-flop that flop gives me no reason to fold.

From my experience folks have no 4 bet bluff range at NL5. I would therefore be putting villain on QQ+, AK.
That gives them 34 combos, 18 of which have you crushed (with only 2 outs) and 16 that you are currently beating (with 6 outs).

Personally, I am folding everything less than QQ+, AK to a 4 bet; especially from early position


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R2PNZ
Joined: 02.01.2017

Agree with corc.
JJ is hard to continue with after 4bet at micro's, I could find a fold pre.
As played I'd call flop evaluate R


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The main "thing" is in the preflop 3b.
You should just call instead.
You can 3b JJ vs the late positions.
There is nothing special in the flop bet size.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Too loose 3bet pre against UTG. I'm not sure if we should 5bet shove and hope villain calls with AKs. If we just call the 4bet, folding OTF with overpair seems quite weak but is probably the best.


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monty90
Joined: 30.10.2008

So with no info on the UTG calling is fine against the initial raise since we will have position post flop?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by monty90
So with no info on the UTG calling is fine against the initial raise since we will have position post flop?

Yes.
UTG opens usually quite tight so you should 3bet him tighter too. Otherwise you are often behind against his calling range and you can't defend enough against his 4bets.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by monty90
So with no info on the UTG calling is fine against the initial raise since we will have position post flop?

Exactly.
Utg is right and you will be in trouble.


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