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Marginal bluff, bad line?

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antLrace
Joined: 13.03.2015

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $25.08 (250.8 bb)
BB: $10.16 (101.6 bb)
UTG: $11.26 (112.6 bb)
MP: $9.50 (95 bb)
Hero (CO): $30 (300 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♠: J♦:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.95, BB folds, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($2) 7♣: 8♣: 5♠: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2) 3♥: (2 players)
SB bets $1.23, Hero calls $1.23

River: ($4.46) 6♦: (2 players)
SB bets $2.74, Hero raises to $5.94, SB folds

Results:

Spoiler

$9.94 pot ($0.54 rake)
Final Board: 7♣: 8♣: 5♠: 3♥: 6♦:
SB mucked and lost (-$4.92 net)
Hero mucked J♠: J♦: and won $9.40 ($4.48 net)

mistake pre since should be 4b?
I did not know if to 4b since he had very low 3b from blinds.
maybe a marginal bluff/hand since not many infos, i thought opp range was capped on the river (super small 3b from SB% but only 100 hands sample), being deep i have may nutted hands in my range OTR, and i think him capable of folding overpairs. The problem with this hand is that i have no blockers, maybe j9 but i doubt i would call even 250bb , and being so he has some nutted combos himself OTR. Maybe this bluff make sense against opp with small 3b% from blinds or with a hand like 99, TT, JcTc? Maybe he folded the part of his range i was actually ahead lol?Probably better line would be X/C/C?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Sometimes that will work, sometimes not. There is a chance you are still ahead and I don't like to turn this showdown value into a bluff. Just calling would be better imo.


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antLrace
Joined: 13.03.2015

thanks for reply lassi!
i agree i guess i had contraddcting thoughts on this hands, since i thought that his betting range OTR is not that wide after all, and he would probably not B/B TTs and not many bluff combos as well; probably a 4 b pre for sure though expecially no info, just standard line


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, the raise OTR is a bit of overplay.
No 4b preflop!!!


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antLrace
Joined: 13.03.2015

thanks for reply nitrol
ok no 4b pre i guess i have better hands to 4b for value and some bluffs to balance vs reg,
what about betting some of my JJ OTF? like half of them? and mostly calling on the river.
thanks for replies i can understand now i overplayed and overthought this hand


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The flop bet depends on how aggressive is villain.


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oI2ange
Joined: 21.07.2015

I actually don't hate this. I would probably bet the flop for protection and also give myself a few more options on the river (traditionally, a bet flop, bet turn, check river line works well). I think you should raise the river a bit larger, though. Oddly enough, this might be on the lower end hands in your range (other than stuff like JTcc that you might play this way). You have lots of 2 pairs and sets and straights in general- I wouldn't go overboard on the river because you should want to still make a small value raise with stuff like A4cc or whatever, but I think I like the river raise. It looks like a blocker bet from him.


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