Anything wrong with this hand

why didn't you cbet this flop ?

It's pretty passive have you seen him limping ? my guess would be he just cold calls far to wide. If you give him better than 1 pair hands so

55-44,A5s-A4s,54s,32s

your a 40/60 underdog , i don't think i like shoving tbh. Are passive looking fish likely taking this line with flush draws or AQ AJ ? an aggro loose villain i can see it being very good to shove but Vs this villain i'm not so sure. Id rather call the turn bet and it would be a crying river call on decent run outs i wouldn't be happy at'all about it.

Originally posted by Xixi74
why didn't you cbet this flop ?

To disguise the strengh of my handand collect 2 bets from weaker hands like Ax and middle pairs on later streets

Originally posted by BingoWings
It's pretty passive have you seen him limping ? my guess would be he just cold calls far to wide. If you give him better than 1 pair hands so

55-44,A5s-A4s,54s,32s

your a 40/60 underdog , i don't think i like shoving tbh. Are passive looking fish likely taking this line with flush draws or AQ AJ ? an aggro loose villain i can see it being very good to shove but Vs this villain i'm not so sure. Id rather call the turn bet and it would be a crying river call on decent run outs i wouldn't be happy at'all about it.

I think i had an easy fold on the turn, maybe even the flop, a tight passive bets 3/4 into players twice is never a good sign, i dont see him making this play with anything less then the nut hands you said

If our reason is to disguise our strength and hoping for villain to bet, we have not applied the reasoning for betting properly. What you want is 'having weaker hands to call you' and for this, you can bet but just a little less, say, 30-35% in a mw pot. Hope is never a good thing mathematical-wise. We should have a strategy when being OOP. We can try to lure weaker hands in that they bet but we miss too much value when we apply this multiway.

Don’t forget you are playing out of position on a wet board post-flop against 2 villains. We don’t want to give 1 of the players to hit his draw and is this a standard Cbet I think for protection and I would bet at least half pot.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I would stil cbet that Flop. We can expect alot of calls from worse hands (from worse Ax to gutshots) vs two players. I think we can make it even a bit over 1/2. If we face a raise, I believe it would be best to fold because anything worse than 2-pairs is most likelly not raising. As played, I think we can just call the Turn. I believe check/folding would be too weak while he might still have TP, worse two-pairs, flushdraws... We might check/fold River, especially if another club hits.

by betting flop turn river you can take one stack. and why 'disguise your hand' to fold then on the turn ?

I think you lost the hand and your are over result-oriented ahah.

Flop you have value on any Ax from both of opponents, maybe some pp from CO, any flush draw from both. Turn any Ax and FD, and river in case of good runout any AQ AJ and some AT sometimes.

Turn, CO can still value bet AJ AQ.

Yeah i think i should of bet flop probablyt 3/4, bet turn the same, and check call river folding vs a reraise at any point, i had played around 3000 hands at that time.

I have a question, since CO is a tight passive player, should we find a fold to this sizing on the turn, i would normally make a fold to this guy, and does a tight passive players stats look somwat like

24/12
26/14
15/27
etc...

Also i dont think there is anything wrong with checking the flop, say vs two winning tags, who are most likley to fold to a cbet with anything that doesnt beat TP, this is sort of what i was thinking at the time, its flawed because they wasnt tags

Don't be chuckin and jiving with a measly pair. It isn't worth the risk of messing up big time to maybe win a small bet. You can be damned sure that they'll (correctly) call a reasonable bet with any pair or any draw (at least the button will), since you are 100 and 117 bb deep with them in a singly raised pot on a drawy board.