Originally posted by Xixi74
I know you were asking about postflop, but a good postflop game begins with a good preflop one!
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A good preflop game begins with a good analysis of one's postflop game. Recognize your own postflop weaknesses and avoid situations where you know the opponent has the upper hand. Next, recognize you opponents weaknesses and try to exploit these (unless it clashes with the first principle).
Originally posted by FrozenElf
So what is the best solution here, in this situation, we hold KJo isoing a limper and we beleive we will run into a 3bet more often then not, so we have a few options#1 - Fold and wait for a better hand like AQ, KQ, 99+
#2 - Raise planning to fold
#3 - Raise planning to call
#4 - Raise planning to 4bet
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By the above, it depends primarily on you, secondarily on villain. There's no answer to rue them all.
Originally posted by FrozenElf
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The main question i was trying to ask, was the postflop situation, so i had a plan in future so i didnt make this kind of mistake, what would we do when say#1 - when we completely miss the flop - i guess this is check fold
#2 - when we hit a draw - probably good to double barrel shove this hand
#3 - when we hit our bottom pair - check fold
#4 - when we hit our top pair - i think this is about the only hand strong enough to continue for 1-2 streets of value aslong as we dont have to check call flop and check call river
Flop situations are are much more complicated that that. Flop texture, opponents, ...
Since you ask these questions, and look for a prescription solution, I'd recommend avoiding big pots, and to be very disciplined when you 4-bet bluff, or avoid them all-together. These problems do not go away completely by choosing other hands with which to 4-bet bluff, but the problems will be of a different character - but equally difficult.