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TPTK , but wrong line?

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robstars7
Joined: 23.05.2012

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $3.75 (37.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.37 (103.7 bb)
MP: $7.92 (79.2 bb)
CO: $9.53 (95.3 bb)
BTN: $10.36 (103.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ac Jh
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BTN calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.85) Jc 5d 8h (2 players)
Hero bets $1.22, BTN calls $1.22

Turn: ($4.29) 4d (2 players)
Hero bets $2.54, BTN calls $2.54

River: ($9.37) 3h (2 players)
Hero bets $5.71, BTN calls $5.70 and is all-in

Results: $20.77 pot ($1.03 rake)
Final Board: Jc 5d 8h 4d 3h
Hero showed Ac Jh and won $0.00 (-$10.36 net)
BTN showed 8c Js and won $19.74 ($9.38 net)

These hands are confussing as the best approach. Pre is standard i think. But the line i take isnt likely to get called by a worse hand enough is it? 3 streets and stacking off with less then TPTK?

I feel i need to check a street or two, but whats a better line??

I think this line is fine vs fish , players I have some read on that they call down too wide.


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DedoMassivo
Joined: 01.03.2017

Unless you have good reads against the Villain and you know he will "always" call worse hands in that situation, I think that you can Pot control a bit here.
I am a rookie but I think that if you bet about 1/3 of the pot on a dry Flop generally (for value and bluffs), you could perhaps get away with a hero fold on the turn or the river depending on the action.

For instance:
- If you are bluffing, a bet that size will usually be enough to send away most hands that have not hit the flop, since you have 3bet PF your range is stronger and you can get away.
- If it's for value, like in this case, you will probably keep an 8X, 5X, AX that missed and worse Jacks, allowing you to throw another barrel on the turn without getting yourself committed.

Think about it, the board is dry which means you will not be called by draws, leaving Pairs, Sets, and Two Pairs. A bet like 0,75$ would in most cases prevent from being called by hands that missed (since there are no draws, there are less hands that call) and allow you to evaluate on a turn with 3,25$ instead of 4,29$ which in my opinion gives a little bit more margin to keep the pot small and even try to get some info from the villain.

There are these crazy guys, that I usually label, against whom I would play similarly, betting large on the flop and focusing to get money on the pot since they will call a lot of times with any kind of shit, but in this case I would, if I'm playing right and focused, pot control a bit and play like I explained before.

Cheers, I'll be checking this thread to see if there's more people discussing it.

Good Luck!


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I think betting the flop is fine, but on the turn we can x/c. 56 got there, and as you said triple barreling is overplaying your hand here, unless you know the villian.
If you x and he x on T, fire river big.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

I would either x on the flop or on the turn


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

We want villain to chase draws on flop and turn. I would consider xc river. However, what are your thoughts on villain? Is he loose or aggressive?


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