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Call or Jam OTF

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Joined: 01.09.2009

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $1.48 (74 bb)
BB: $2.06 (103 bb)
UTG: $3.06 (153 bb)
MP: $0.67 (33.5 bb)
CO: $1.98 (99 bb)
Hero (BTN): $2.03 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A♥: J♥:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.04, SB folds, BB raises to $0.16, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.33) 5♥: 6♠: Q♥: (2 players)
BB bets $0.21, Hero raises to $1.87, BB calls $1.66

Turn: ($4.07) 8♥: (2 players)
River: ($4.07) T♥: (2 players)

Results:

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$4.07 pot ($0.14 rake)
Final Board: 5♥: 6♠: Q♥: 8♥: T♥:
BB showed K♦: K♥: and lost (-$2.03 net)
Hero showed A♥: J♥: and won $3.93 ($1.90 net)

What is more profitable in the long run to call or jam OTF ? They fold 50 %.


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

In position I would just call. We can always bluff on later streets plus it allows us to realize our equity relatively cheap. Also, if we raise we don't really want to get 3bet. OOP I'd be a bit more inclined to raise.

That said, if you do want to raise I would make it a smaller. No need to shove here. If you make it $0.65 here you set up stacks nicely to shove OTT. But again, I'd just call here.


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kerith
Joined: 30.07.2015

Fellow NL2 player here, this is my BB:

I think Jamming is too much, we get the same effect with a smaller size raise on the flop, or even calling:

  • The price is about right with 8 good outs (hearts to a flush) and 3 partial outs (aces). So folding is not an option.
  • If we call and hit OTT, it has to be a card lower than an A, and therefore for the villain there is a high chance that he has to bet even if he suspects a a FD, since otherwise it gives hands like 9Ts, 98s etc a free card, and he/she could bet again at least OTT, putting us in a great position to raise/shove OTR.
  • If we call and don't hit, we could raise OTT anyways or bet if the sizing is not too much, if there is enough equity. If villain doesn't bet OTT I would check back, and bet/raise OTR, since I think he folds a lot if we bet OTT with a heart.
  • If we raise and he calls, we can easily play fit/fold OTT and the Stack-to-pot ratio is great to shoving OTR, taking advantage of position.
  • Shoving accomplishes the same result, but with greater risk, and we are not giving ourselves enough pot odds, even with the fold equity (I think).

Having said that, I prefer calling in position. OTT, if we hit and villain bets I'd raise, then shove OTR, and if we hit and villain bets I'd check back, and raise any bet or bet about 2/3 pot OTR. If we miss OTT I'd probably call a bet up to around pot size and bet around 1/2 pot if he checks, and repeat for the river.

I'm sorry that my writing is not very clear, I'm in a hurry.

Regards


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