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Zoom, JJ, 4way Squeeze, Cbet Kxx?

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

I think my squeeze range includes a lot of Kx hand starting from AK. I'm betting my Jack but I guess it's fine if players think that I'm betting a King and fold also.

My thought process here is that if I lead flop then I'd get respect and see two more cards uncontested in which case may be I can hit my two outs in case if someone does have a Kx hand starting from KQ. I didn't see the need to bet big here with our perceived range.

What is the general consensus on C-Betting with JJ here on this particular flop?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 105.24 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
Hero (SB): 100.4 BB
BB: 177.52 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 34)
UTG: 172.52 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 128.76 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 93.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ J♠

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, MP calls 12 BB, fold, BTN calls 12 BB

Flop: (49 BB, 3 players) K♣ 7♠ 2♥
Hero bets 12 BB, fold, BTN calls 12 BB

Turn: (73 BB, 2 players) J♥

May be we needed to hit this card on turn. How do we play it?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely the flop a little bit more like 20bb. Then we have more fold equity I think and then we can shove if we hit our set like now. In this spot you could consider betting the turn like 22bb and shove the river. Otherwise you shove pot size and that’s a big bet.

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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

I generally cbet these hands, it makes playing the hand alot easier. Like you said our perceived range has quite some Kx in it. Winning the pot right there and i'm happy.
Sizing seems small, but it's ok, the board is hella dry and i would play Kx the same, making it a 3street hand probably. Betting 1/4 or 1/3th pot probably gives the same amount of FE.
Turn we hit the nuts and i would continue with a 1/3th bet and shove any river.

When we miss turn i would check and hope he check backs. His range consists of alot of PP that will play for pot controll aswell, (We beat those). Once he bets i would probably fold, i don't see alot of players call squeezes pre and plan to float 3way. Also we have some Kx in our range that are better candidates to x/c since we then have TP and block his Kx.


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insomnia666
Joined: 31.07.2010

You use this hand for SQ and then don't know what to do. U have 2 choices IMO. You can turn you hand to bluff. Big bet on the flop and then fold vs 10% bet , like idiot. Vs some brave fish. Or represent JJ and call AI vs some brave fish. The small bet on the flop will do the work for that.


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