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PokerStars 0,50$ Fullring Turbo, KK otf

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Mooharius
Joined: 10.01.2007

Hi everyone,

here I have KK in the CO and I raised to 4BB after one limper. The BB and the limper called and MP+1 made a potsize donkbet. I am not sure how to react to this bet. On the one hand, villain is loose. So his range is obviously wider than usual and his hand more likely not to be very strong. On the other hand he is passive, so that I do not think he is bluffing in this spot, especially because we are 3-handed. Nevertheless, I can not fold KK against such a player on this board. The question is whether to just call or raise/push. Since there are possible flush- and straighdraws I would most likely push here to protect my hand. Is there any argument for just calling in this spot?

PokerStars - 25/50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 21.84 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 39.9 BB
UTG: 38.24 BB (VPIP: 11.32, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
UTG+1: 26.5 BB (VPIP: 6.25, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 15.34 BB (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 11.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
MP+1: 42.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (CO): 44.82 BB
BTN: 40.96 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ K♠

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB

Flop: (12.5 BB, 3 players) J♣ 9♦ 3♦
BB checks, MP+1 bets 12.5 BB, Hero???


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Mayb3n0T
Joined: 03.01.2017

Well i don't think folding is an option, but against his big bet i probably just raise shove and end it on flop. Calling here almost commites you to the pot and every time that a diamond, A, Q or T hits the board you have a difficult decision to make with he bets big again (and he probably is going to do), and he could easily be doing this with TP so without reads i shove here.

Cumps ;)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It’s a weird pot size lead of him, but he could have a draw or top pair hand and I would shove here as well, because I doubt he will ever fold if you shove. It’s off course possible he has a set sometimes, but that’s unlucky I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Mooharius
Joined: 10.01.2007

Okay, shove it is (and was). Thanks for your replies.


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Theaust
Joined: 15.12.2017

Originally posted by Mooharius
Hi everyone,

here I have KK in the CO and I raised to 4BB after one limper. The BB and the limper called and MP+1 made a potsize donkbet. I am not sure how to react to this bet. On the one hand, villain is loose. So his range is obviously wider than usual and his hand more likely not to be very strong. On the other hand he is passive, so that I do not think he is bluffing in this spot, especially because we are 3-handed. Nevertheless, I can not fold KK against such a player on this board. The question is whether to just call or raise/push. Since there are possible flush- and straighdraws I would most likely push here to protect my hand. Is there any argument for just calling in this spot?

PokerStars - 25/50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
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SB: 21.84 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 39.9 BB
UTG: 38.24 BB (VPIP: 11.32, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
UTG+1: 26.5 BB (VPIP: 6.25, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 15.34 BB (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 11.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
MP+1: 42.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (CO): 44.82 BB
BTN: 40.96 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ K♠

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB

Flop: (12.5 BB, 3 players) J♣ 9♦ 3♦
BB checks, MP+1 bets 12.5 BB, Hero???

Not the ideal situation I guess


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That for sure, but if he plays like this with random J it’s an ideal situation I think.


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