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QQ river hero call or fold?

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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Villain stats 1.4K hands, 14/11, WTSD 30, WonSD 65%. SB VPIP/PFR 15/13 and cold call 4, 3bet SB 2.6.
Flop way very good for me and turn blank and river came blank also good for me. I can't give villain hands 2x and 7x, so possible range: 88++-QQ maybe slow played KK, AA.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $4.88 (97.6 bb)
BB: $4.54 (90.8 bb)
UTG+2: $4.01 (80.2 bb)
MP1: $5.62 (112.4 bb)
MP2: $5.05 (101 bb)
MP3: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $6.14 (122.8 bb)
BTN: $5.12 (102.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♣: Q♠:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.37) 2♥: 7♦: 7♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87) 9♣: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.58, Hero calls $0.58

River: ($2.03) 2♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Results:

Spoiler

$5.03 pot ($0.21 rake)
Final Board: 2♥: 7♦: 7♠: 9♣: 2♦:
Hero showed Q♣: Q♠: and won $4.82 ($2.34 net)
BTN showed K♥: J♥: and lost (-$2.48 net)


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Did you check/call flop to induce a bluff from villain ?

Because my first thought in this spot is to cbet always.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You should give his postflop stats. If he is active and bets much vs missed cbet, then it is ok to let him bet with all his range.


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RentzEst
Joined: 05.09.2015

I do not understand why you´re check on the flop ? I would be bet all street . You say turn blank and river came blank .
Why don ´t you bet then ?


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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

Against unknown I would play the same line as you did, but you can also mix it and sometimes cbet otf. It's fine to balance your checking range. But still would be fine post some postflop stats like bet vs missed cbet.


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LacsapR
Joined: 14.07.2011

I don't get why you ask for a hero call in the title. If you see the river as a blank this is no hero call. Anyway I would also bet myself here every street VS unknown, if he is active post then letting go him bet seems good but the n I'd consider raising the turn as it's unlikely that he bets the river again


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Jakks
Joined: 12.12.2015

bet - bet - check/call or fold to jam OTR. By checking OP you are missing value in the long run.


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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

Originally posted by Jakks
bet - bet - check/call or fold to jam OTR. By checking OP you are missing value in the long run.

Not necessary, depends on your opponent, many players are betting vs missed cbet almost 100%. So we get value from his airs which he would fold to cbet.


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Jakks
Joined: 12.12.2015

On NL5 maybe... this is not the case if you higher and if you learn to play bad on NL5... it will be harder to learn to play correctly on NL25/NL50.

Villain stats 1.4K hands, 14/11 - looks pretty tight to me and I would fold the river if I ever play the hand like this.


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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

Maybe but you won't cbet all of the time here at higher limits, so balance your checking range is fine.

River is pretty close for sure, but still TT-JJ value betting and probably 9x hands. Only few combos like 76s,87s,97s,99,A2s,22,77 (13combos) vs only TT-JJ (12combos). So without bluffs we can find a call in this situation


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Some video what i saw in pokerstrategy, as same played similar this hand. Post flop what hand here call my cbet? Maybe soma pocket pairs, but not all, about 66++, 22 and 7x and some broadway. I haven't protect my hands from a lot of things, no draws here. So i bet post flop which hands will going on turn, if villain is tag player. 66++ or maybe just 88++, 22 and 7x, sometimes some broadways, KJs+, AJs+. And if i cbet the turn and if i get re-raise what can i do? I guess i have to fold. And this board, i didn't want to fold QQ. And yes i induce the bloff villain, which he runs and bet 2 or 3street, and i think more value for this play as i cbet post flop. I pretty sure, and cbet post flop, cbet turn he folded all weaker hands and if he call my turn cbet, only two hands, what i hit, JJ, 1010. Other hands hit me, all 7x, 22, 99
MatoStar you understand why i played this way.


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