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Willy411
Willy411
Joined: 24.07.2014
Posts: 211
04.06.2018, 02:45

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $6.76 (135.2 bb)
BB: $8.09 (161.8 bb)
UTG: $10.42 (208.4 bb)
MP: $6.32 (126.4 bb)
CO: $5.06 (101.2 bb)
BTN: $5.30 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♠: K♦:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, BB folds, MP calls $0.33

Flop: ($0.95) 5♣: T♥: 8♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 6♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1, Hero calls $1

I had note, that he play aggressively.

River: ($3.95) 8♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, MP raises to $4.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.12

I don't want to he check back. I want value from JJ, QQ.
I am not able to fold it. Enough good odds..
What do you think. It is poker, or too aggre. I think it was correct (normally, T b/f, R b/f)

Results:

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$12.69 pot ($0.53 rake)
Final Board: 5♣: T♥: 8♠: 6♦: 8♥:
Hero showed K♠: K♦: and lost (-$6.32 net)
MP showed 5♠: 5♥: and won $12.16 ($5.84 net)


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xiaohetao
xiaohetao
Joined: 29.05.2018
Posts: 54
04.06.2018, 08:16 +1

Your line (check ott and donk bet otr) was kind of weird to me. If a 4, 7, 9 or A hit otr, it would be very hard for you to continue your action and hard for him to pay you with any worse hands. I don't like to let him see an easy river unless you are comfortable to confront many tough river situations.

I prefer one of the following,
1. bet/call. This is a standard play.
2. check/raise. When an agg player call you otf, it's highly possible that he is either ahead or he is trying to float. Obviously, we can't go anywhere with KK on this 3bet board, so I would take the opportunity to punish floating.

As played, I would check call again otr and let him bluff everything in his range. I don't think he would check behind with QQ or JJ.


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MrQNo
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04.06.2018, 13:23

You cannot fold ott, and so you are committed. There are some draws possible, and if one arrives, you are in trouble. If an A appears otr, you are in trouble, too. So why not pushing ott.


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DecMate
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Joined: 25.01.2009
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04.06.2018, 16:58

Bet the turn and river yourself.
Turn half pot river 1/3.
This is a weird line that makes life harder for you.


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MatoStar
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Joined: 22.07.2017
Posts: 215
04.06.2018, 19:27 +1

We can actually check/call OTF or x/r, but cbet is also fine. Then OTT we have few options, depends on villain stats.. we can choose the option with betting 3 streets or just check/call twice. In this spot I would rather prefer betting all streets, because Villain has some draws OTT which he actually can raise - hands like 77,99,Qjs.
About the sizings: I would bet 1/3 of the pot OTF (we do not need so much protection), then 1/2-2/3 OTT (because of draws) and OTR as DecMate mentioned 1/3 would be fine, because you wanna be called from hands like 77,99,JJ,QQ,Tx hands.


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Willy411
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Joined: 24.07.2014
Posts: 211
07.06.2018, 21:33

I look at his line.. He has 55 and called 0,33$ and win full stack.. Of course not all boards low like this without J,Q,A but if no A on board, I think he got all money from my stack. -- means called PP pfr and is a little bit +EV if he hits set in 12 %. Isn't strange? :) - maybe raise on 10bb and it's solved :)


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Tonyx86
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Joined: 28.03.2018
Posts: 142
08.06.2018, 00:02

He hits a set one out of eight times, but neither he is stacking somebody off everytime nor is he winning all those hands.


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