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Paf4488
Joined: 24.11.2007

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 111091
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP1: $251.00
MP2: $386.20
CO: $200.00
BTN: $202.00
SB: $606.30
BB: $221.75
UTG: $86.00
Hero (UTG+1): $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG+1 with Q :heart: Q :spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, BTN raises to $22, 2 folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($47.00) 6 :club: 2 :club: 5 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $30, Hero calls $30

Turn: ($107.00) 8 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($107.00) K :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

btn 16/12/2/24 over 1,1k hands, 3bet 6% overall, on btn 8%

Should i 4bet preflop or c/r flop or..


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello,

Nice hand, well played.

Best regards,
Rensu


Talic
Joined: 04.01.2008

Originally posted by Paf4488

btn 16/2/2/24 over 1,1k hands, 3bet 6% overall, on btn 8%

Should i 4bet preflop or c/r flop or..

well.. is it even possible to have 2 PFR and 6% 3bet? did you mean 12 PFR?


Paf4488
Joined: 24.11.2007

Originally posted by Talic

Originally posted by Paf4488

btn 16/2/2/24 over 1,1k hands, 3bet 6% overall, on btn 8%

Should i 4bet preflop or c/r flop or..

well.. is it even possible to have 2 PFR and 6% 3bet? did you mean 12 PFR?

yea its 12 sry


Talic
Joined: 04.01.2008

well, I like your line, but what is river for you, c/f?


NymXXL
Joined: 20.05.2008

Hello. Your preflop game is arguable. Someone would advice you to 4 bet somebody not. I usually tend to 4bet less frequently on PSTARS NL200 with QQ where players tend to be more nitty preflop and I usually see them to go broke only with aces or kings unless they are fishes. But I don´t like your postflop game. Would you call the turn bet? Would you call also the river bet if there will be no A or K? If so you can raise the flop becouse you are just giving 6 outs to AK. If you would not call turn and river bet if there will be no A or K you are playing QQ basically for set value. I guess you just called the flop becouse you wanted to see what your opponents will do on the turn but in 3 beted pot it is not very good to call for getting more information on latter streets becouse you are too often pot committed


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Well, preflop is fine.

flop play: c/c line is good against aggressive opponents with high cbet turn value. The plan is obviously to c/r turn then. As played I am valuebetting the river. He can have worse pairs. Make it small though.

my line: c/r flop, since I represent a draw/air/overpair. On the flop we can represent the biggest range. And because we don't have further reads or stats here I do take this line.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

obv c/r flop should be ok.. & i d like for that most likely

but how abt c/c and bet smallish turn like 30-40 for building up pot +some protection in case he has any peace of it like (obv could be) value + more bluff induce.. usually he can shove his fd, or sd more likely & also.. on river we have a good c/c line, bcs he is more likely to bluffshove his busters


cindy1985
Joined: 13.11.2007

Originally posted by TheLastNail
obv c/r flop should be ok.. & i d like for that most likely

but how abt c/c and bet smallish turn like 30-40 for building up pot +some protection in case he has any peace of it like (obv could be) value + more bluff induce.. usually he can shove his fd, or sd more likely & also.. on river we have a good c/c line, bcs he is more likely to bluffshove his busters

I like this idea, you have to know your opponent though, plus it allow you to float oop and steal the pot on the turn in similar spots afterwards.